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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: The "Last" Top Forty Composer Countdown, Part Six: More Composers on the Rise by Scott Bettencourt
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2017 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

2017 wasn’t the first time a virtually unknown composer was the predictable winner of the Original Score Oscar -- after all, Steven Price managed to win for Gravity, only his third feature score, just three years ago

Except that you predicted John Williams would win for THE BOOK THIEF! Ha -- gotcha!

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2017 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I'm surprised John Carpenter's The Ward wasn't mentioned among Mark Kilian's credits and bio...?

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2017 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

HUGE omission here -- MICHAEL ABELS, who burst out onto the scoring scene with a HUGE hit, Get Out:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119182&forumID=1&archive=0

Excellent and creative debut orchestral score for an excellent and creative film.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

HUGE omission here -- MICHAEL ABELS, who burst out onto the scoring scene with a HUGE hit, Get Out:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119182&forumID=1&archive=0

Excellent and creative debut orchestral score for an excellent and creative film.

Yavar


I'd already done a column with the A's before Get Out came out -- this series is taking me long enough of finish without adding composers earlier in the alphabet.

And where did anyone get the idea I thought Book Thief would win Best Score for 2013; I would have voted for it myself, but I can't find any record I predicted it would win. Gravity seemed the shoo-in once it got nominated.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

HUGE omission here -- MICHAEL ABELS, who burst out onto the scoring scene with a HUGE hit, Get Out:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119182&forumID=1&archive=0

Excellent and creative debut orchestral score for an excellent and creative film.

Yavar


I'd already done a column with the A's before Get Out came out -- this series is taking me long enough of finish without adding composers earlier in the alphabet.

And where did anyone get the idea I thought Book Thief would win Best Score for 2013; I would have voted for it myself, but I can't find any record I predicted it would win. Gravity seemed the shoo-in once it got nominated.


2 out of 3.

And Mark Kilian's The Ward?

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)



2 out of 3.

And Mark Kilian's The Ward?


It didn't make enough money to show up on his box-office list (it's not even listed on Box Office Mojo). And given how many composers I'm covering in these three "composers on the rise" entries, I don't think I can be faulted for not discussing every one of their works, even an interesting entry like The Ward (the rare orchestral score for a Carpenter film along with a score Carpenter himself didn't compose).

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)



2 out of 3.

And Mark Kilian's The Ward?


It didn't make enough money to show up on his box-office list (it's not even listed on Box Office Mojo). And given how many composers I'm covering in these three "composers on the rise" entries, I don't think I can be faulted for not discussing every one of their works, even an interesting entry like The Ward (the rare orchestral score for a Carpenter film along with a score Carpenter himself didn't compose).


I'm not faulting you, I was just curious why it didn't show up on the list or rank higher than two films I'd never heard of that didn't make more than a mil a piece. Thanks for the info.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

It's not surprising that The Ward isn't even listed on Box Office Mojo,since I had to go all the way to Santa Monica to catch it at one of those multiplexes (now closed, I think) that I'd go to mostly to see films that weren't playing anywhere else (like Ironclad, High School, A Good Old-Fashioned Orgy). The Laemmle Monica currently has that role -- it's where I caught Walter Hill's The Assignment and Brady Corbet's The Childhood of a Leader.

The other one like that nearby is the AMC Burbank Town Center 8 -- it's where I saw Wild Card, Bone Tomahawk, Jessabelle and Atlas Shrugged 3 (don't ask -- actually that should have been the title Atlas Shrugged 3: Don't Ask).

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

It's not surprising that The Ward isn't even listed on Box Office Mojo,since I had to go all the way to Santa Monica to catch it at one of those multiplexes (now closed, I think) that I'd go to mostly to see films that weren't playing anywhere else (like Ironclad, High School, A Good Old-Fashioned Orgy). The Laemmle Monica currently has that role -- it's where I caught Walter Hill's The Assignment and Brady Corbet's The Childhood of a Leader.

The other one like that nearby is the AMC Burbank Town Center 8 -- it's where I saw Wild Card, Bone Tomahawk, Jessabelle and Atlas Shrugged 3 (don't ask -- actually that should have been the title Atlas Shrugged 3: Don't Ask).


Such a travesty when films like Bone Tomahawk are buried like that. I had to chase it down.

Maybe the sequel to Atlas Shrugged 3: Don't Ask will be Atlas Shrugged 4: Scott Shrugged Whatever.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

HUGE omission here -- MICHAEL ABELS, who burst out onto the scoring scene with a HUGE hit, Get Out:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119182&forumID=1&archive=0

Excellent and creative debut orchestral score for an excellent and creative film.

Yavar


I'd already done a column with the A's before Get Out came out -- this series is taking me long enough of finish without adding composers earlier in the alphabet.

And where did anyone get the idea I thought Book Thief would win Best Score for 2013; I would have voted for it myself, but I can't find any record I predicted it would win. Gravity seemed the shoo-in once it got nominated.


Granted these predictions are in in alphabetical order (so forgive me) but then again GRAVITY doesn't make an appearance.


ORIGINAL SCORE

THE BOOK THIEF - John Williams
CAPTAIN PHILLIPS - Henry Jackman
PHILOMENA - Alexandre Desplat
SAVING MR. BANKS - Thomas Newman
12 YEARS A SLAVE - Hans Zimmer

THE BOOK THIEF - John Williams
ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW - Abel Korzeniowski
THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG - Howard Shore
PHILOMENA - Alexandre Desplat
TIM’S VERMEER - Conrad Pope

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2017 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

True, and when the nominations were announced I pointed out that I'd thought Gravity was too non-melodic and sound-design-ish to be nominated. (And I also didn't think Her had a shot either). But between nominations and the awards it seemed like the shoo-in.

And I certainly didn't think a film as relatively obscure as Book Thief would win Williams a 6th Oscar, lovely as the score is (at the time I thought it was the best of the year, and don't know that my opinion's changed). If he did win a 6th (and he obviously still could), it would more likely be for something like Lincoln or The Force Awakens. The five films he did win for were big Oscar movies even apart from his music.

 
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