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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


They have just drained all the colour out of the comics I read when I was a kid. The tv stuff might be overly fluffy at times, but at least it resembles what I grew up with. It's all starting to look like one big grunge fest.



i didn't think anyone here outside of a few of us actually even liked comics as very few ever participate in the long running comic threads going around on the board. Nice to meet you. wink




When I was a kid I liked the JLA I think above everything in the various comics. But Green Lantern was in it, and the Martian Manhunter, not who/whatever Cyborg is. But I doubt that I've so much as glanced at one in a newsagent since I was 11 or 12.


Green Lantern should be there instead of this Cyborg thing. He was one of the main members. I get the impression they don't want to put folks off because of the last movie they did. But DC seem to be all over the place. I mean they have two completely different continuities running at the same time in the cinema and on tv.


To be fair, Cyborg has been associated with the Justice League off and on since the early '80s. At least he has in the television versions. He was a prominent member of the League on the Super Powers iteration of the Justice League. Before the name change, the show was called Superfriends, but it was rebranded to sell a toy line. Later, he joined the Smallville version of the Justice League, and with a recent reboot of the DC comic line, Cyborg was made a founding member of the Justice League.

Green Lantern will definitely be joining, but I think WB wants to wait a little bit longer before debuting him in the DCEU in hopes that people forget the Ryan Reynolds film. Henry Cavill has been teasing GL's appearance in the films on twitter recently. There was a rumor that GL will show up in a post credits scene for Justice League, but I doubt that, as I am sure WB would have announced who will be playing him by now. So my guess is we see GL in Justice League 2. There is also a Green Lantern centric movie called Green Lantern Corps which is coming out in, I believe, 2020.

I am sure J'onn J'onnz/Martian Manhunter will eventually show up if the DCEU stays popular. Until then, I am happy with his role on Supergirl.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

You should indeed take it as the compliment it was intended to be. Even when I disagree with your viewpoints, I get a kick out of reading what you write. I'm a pretty cynical bastard myself, but I'm a hip Millennial compared to curmudgeonly you (and solium).

I wear that badge with honor. smile

I hated the early 70's. It was all "real life" at the movies. Social issues, political issues, war, poverty. What a depressing time at the cinema. Then Star Wars came along and we had a "New Hope!" wink
We could escape into a world of real heroes and villains. Black and white. (not that I don't like complex characters) There was something to root for.

Likewise, I think we saw the same resonance in 2001 right after 9/11 when Lord of the Rings came out. What a horribly depressed time for America, then Fellowship came out and it gave us the simplistic escapism the country needed again. Real heros and villains.

I don't mind films having an edge or imperfect characters, but there are no heroes anymore. All the characters are terribly flawed and practically immoral.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


I don't mind films having an edge or imperfect characters, but there are no heroes anymore. All the characters are terribly flawed and practically immoral.


I know you don't like the super hero stuff, but the Chris Evans Captain America trilogy is imo a welcome return to the traditional hero. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


I don't mind films having an edge or imperfect characters, but there are no heroes anymore. All the characters are terribly flawed and practically immoral.


I know you don't like the super hero stuff, but the Chris Evans Captain America trilogy is imo a welcome return to the traditional hero. smile



Except I keep expecting him to yell "Flame on!"

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


I don't mind films having an edge or imperfect characters, but there are no heroes anymore. All the characters are terribly flawed and practically immoral.


I know you don't like the super hero stuff, but the Chris Evans Captain America trilogy is imo a welcome return to the traditional hero. smile



Except I keep expecting him to yell "Flame on!"


I won't tell anyone those Fantastic Four movies made an impression on you.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


I don't mind films having an edge or imperfect characters, but there are no heroes anymore. All the characters are terribly flawed and practically immoral.


I know you don't like the super hero stuff, but the Chris Evans Captain America trilogy is imo a welcome return to the traditional hero. smile



Except I keep expecting him to yell "Flame on!"


I totally forgot he was in that!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2017 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I won't tell anyone those Fantastic Four movies made an impression on you.

You can spare Solium and tell them that I like them, I must be the only one.
I like the two fantastic 4 film, the "Affleck" Dare Devil in which Murdock looked like the lead singer of "The cure", the 90s "Lost in space" (Irwin Allen can be very proud of that one), and I don't mind the Clooney "Batman and Robin".
Except for the last one, all the mentioned films had a sincerity, and the FF had something of a child like innocence that reminded me somewhat of the 70s TV series. I hated how they ruined Doctor Doom but the rest has a charm. I especially like Reed Richards and Sue Storm. I even can accept the bad job they did with the Thing, which looked better in the 90s Corman production.

And as for Star Wars: I only like the "Empire strikes back" and "Return of the Jedi" the rest, especially all the CGI TV series can get stolen, I don't care for and have no sympathy for them.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Other than Chris Evans-as-Johnny Storm and the film's trailer, there is little for me to praise in the FF movies. I want that viewpoint to change, though. There is enough in there for me to grow to enjoy them and not be too harsh.

I believe that Hollywood, in its infinite politically correct wisdom, actually loathe the family concept that the FF has always been, and nowhere is that loathing more apparent than in making the Human Torch a "brotha" rather than Sue Storm's brother.

Love the FF comics, though. Always have.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Other than Chris Evans-as-Johnny Storm and the film's trailer, there is little for me to praise in the FF movies. I want that viewpoint to change, though. There is enough in there for me to grow to enjoy them and not be too harsh.

I believe that Hollywood, in its infinite politically correct wisdom, actually loathe the family concept that the FF has always been, and nowhere is that loathing more apparent than in making the Human Torch a "brotha" rather than Sue Storm's brother.

Love the FF comics, though. Always have.


Not only that, but a black family adopted a white blonde girl. Right! LMAO!

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)


Not only that, but a black family adopted a white blonde girl. Right! LMAO!


Worked in TRADER HORN. Remember, it takes a village.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2017 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I won't tell anyone those Fantastic Four movies made an impression on you.

You can spare Solium and tell them that I like them, I must be the only one.
I like the two fantastic 4 film, the "Affleck" Dare Devil in which Murdock looked like the lead singer of "The cure", the 90s "Lost in space" (Irwin Allen can be very proud of that one), and I don't mind the Clooney "Batman and Robin".
Except for the last one, all the mentioned films had a sincerity, and the FF had something of a child like innocence that reminded me somewhat of the 70s TV series. I hated how they ruined Doctor Doom but the rest has a charm. I especially like Reed Richards and Sue Storm. I even can accept the bad job they did with the Thing, which looked better in the 90s Corman production.

And as for Star Wars: I only like the "Empire strikes back" and "Return of the Jedi" the rest, especially all the CGI TV series can get stolen, I don't care for and have no sympathy for them.

D.S.


As I've said elsewhere (or here; credit early onset dementia), Affleck as Daredevil was fine; it was Favreau as Foggy Nelson that was all wrong.

In 1997, I managed to be in the midst of an enthusiastic Batman renaissance of sorts, and that was while the Clooney Bats abomination was out. Somehow, I avoided that movie like the plague--and it was heavily advertised in all the DC books.

The guy who played Dr Doom is an awful actor and was way out of his depth as Doom (another character Darth Vader ripped off).

If I never see another Star Wars film--new or old--it will be too soon.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2017 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


As I've said elsewhere (or here; credit early onset dementia), Affleck as Daredevil was fine; it was Favreau as Foggy Nelson that was all wrong.


Yeah, Affleck was fine, and I don't remember Foggy at all. My biggest problem with the film was an awful story that simply tried to accomplish way too much. In one movie they try to explain a complicated origin for the hero, and give us Kingpin, Bullseye, and Elektra. It was as if they were attempting to adapt the entire Frank Miller run in less than two hours. Kingpin and Elektra, or Kingpin and Bullseye could have possibly worked, but not all three. Both this and Batman and Robin are usually what fans bring up when they complain about too many villains.

In 1997, I managed to be in the midst of an enthusiastic Batman renaissance of sorts, and that was while the Clooney Bats abomination was out. Somehow, I avoided that movie like the plague--and it was heavily advertised in all the DC books.

The guy who played Dr Doom is an awful actor and was way out of his depth as Doom (another character Darth Vader ripped off).


The less said about Batman and Robin the better.

Yep, Doctor Doom was completely miscast. Hopefully some day they can get the character right. The main villain from Incredibles is the best cinematic Doctor Doom I have seen.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2017 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Oh, and Colin Farrell was positively putrid as Bullseye. His performance brought back unwanted memories of the (rare) sloppy performance by Gary Oldman in that Irish mob movie with Ed Harris and Sean Penn. Atrocious.

I can look past story difficulties more than I can ignore shoddy character portrayals. It can be different if it is still in the spirit of the character or brings out something that is conceivable with said character, but when fail to do that...ugh.

 
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