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 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Under what circumstances will you or won't you buy a CD or download of something you already have on LP?

If you already have the CD (or download) first, under what circumstances will you or won't you buy the LP later?

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Not sure where this is going, but OK...

I'll buy almost anything that is released on CD even if I have an LP. I'm very happy to replace the old, scratch-prone, warp prone, inferior tech with new CDs. The only LPs I haven't replaced are scores I bought on spec (usually for $1 or less) and decided I didn't care for.

I never buy downloads. But I do multiple backups of the CD in FLAC format so I do have digital copies of all my CDS.

I would never buy an LP again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I'm one of the lucky ones.
I stopped buying vinyl at about 1200 or so--at that time in late '83/early '84 the CD madness was well under way (of which I was only too deliriously happy to play my part).
My first priority was replacing all the vinyl as was possible.
(I'm still semi-committed to that, though I'm less inclined since the advent of rampant clipping and compression.)
Since then I've only picked up the occasional LP if I knew there was no way in Hell it would ever appear on CD.
And, by extension, I've only ever bought downloads if I knew a CD of it would never appear.
But we are talking really fringey stuff here.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

Under what circumstances will you or won't you buy a CD or download of something you already have on LP?

If you have the CD (or download) first, under what circumstances will you or won't you buy the LP?


For me, there are two major factors (presuming it's a score I care about in the first place):

A) Will this sound remarkably better on CD? Is the lp a bad-sounding recording from the 1960s that would greatly benefit from a remaster. This is generally more often the case for film music than for other genres (oft times with '70s rock albums, the pristine digital remasters end up removing a lot of the grit that made these albums iconic in the first place).

B) Is this likely going to be something I'm going to want to listen to outside of the house? Is it an "album" album that I'm only going to really want to sit through and play all at once in the comfort of my living room, or is it something that I'll want in my iPhone to play on the metro, in coffee shops, running errands, etc.? And if so, do I care about this album enough that access to it on Spotify won't be enough.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks all so far.

I've been buying and listening to LPs all my life. While I had accumulated quite a few by 1990, the 90s was the decade that I did most of my LP buying. Everyone was unloading them. While I had soundtracks prior, the 90s was also the decade when I really started focusing on soundtracks.

(Does anyone else remember all the amazing vinyl deals in the 1990s? Especially with stuff like soundtracks about which no one knew anything or cared?)

If I have the LP already, I will get the CD if I really love the album. If the CD is expanded, I am more likely to pay higher prices; if it is a straight reissue of the LP, I will probably only opt for a less expensive used copy.

If I have the CD and not the vinyl, I will probably buy the vinyl only if I find a clean copy for a good price. In a few cases, with rare LPs that I have on CD, I have bought beat up copies if the price was right and the cover was in nice shape.

I have never taken an organized or purposeful approach to getting CDs of things I have on LP; in fact, I don't really take an organized or purposeful approach to music buying in general. It is based mostly on my current mood and what I happen to find.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Funny you should ask. The thread about a big sale at Barnes & Noble had me contemplating buying CDs of soundtracks I already have on LP. For car stereo purposes primarily. Then I got to thinking...and...thinking...and then FSNeurosis kicked in as usual and I said NAH. Still angry at forced obsolescence. The LPs sound fine even with snaps, crackles & pops. And figured probably won't listen to 'em much in the car anyway.

Still, there is comfort in the idea of them being available for playing in the car...roll eyes...oh it's a hopeless neurosis. Just like Mr. Cleveland's Obsession obsession. Caramba!

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2017 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

One hears less these days about LP transfers to CDR, probably because, as time elapses, people who do this have eventually transferred everything.

But, as long as it's not sold on or redistributed, and is for one's own use, it's a solution for many albums, and is very straightforward. Now, if you want to, you can remaster and remove clicks and noise etc., but I never really bothered with that. As a matter of fact, for some of those audiophile albums (such as was common with Jerry Goldsmith etc.), you can retain a lot of that certain 'warmth' that resulted, often subliminally, from background frequencies mixing with the bass layers. Removing clicks and pops is hard without losing hi-end, so why really bother? But you can amplify or avoid compression, or slightly enrich.

It's an option if you detect failings in CD remastering.


 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2017 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I buy (actually mostly have bought) the stuff I have on LP when it is released on CD, since the CDs were both remastered with improved sound as well as usually more comprehensive in presentation. I usually don't buy CDs if they are just remastered from an LP I already have anyway. I do not buy LPs anymore, unless I really want it as a deco piece. But that happens very, very rarely (don't need much deco).

I don't buy digital downloads (yet?), as there are a number of things I don't like about them, though I digitize my own CD collection.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2017 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Since I'm mostly buying LP for the sake of collecting these days, it doesn't really matter to me if I have it on cd or not. I buy vinyl for the novelty of having a vinyl copy to listen to at my leisure.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2017 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

...Removing clicks and pops is hard without losing hi-end, so why really bother?

If you mean a relatively clean LP with just few clicks and pops along the way, nothing audible is really "lost." The volume of the pop can mask the fact that it goes by extremely quickly. You just go in with the pencil tool and remove the pop. You won't affect high end on either side of the pop, and whatever is lost during the pop is not noticed.

Having said all this, once CDs started to get as cheap as they did, I realized that it was cheaper to just buy a CD than it was to spend time digitizing LPs. The latter would take me a couple of lifetimes.

 
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