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 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

So do I understand correctly that Prince got a shout-out?


Prince was an Oscar-winning composer, so his inclusion makes sense.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Vaughn should have been obvious.
It's Prince that was on the fringe--a musician that did a bit of acting.


Prince won two Oscars. Vaughn won zero Oscars. What were you saying again?

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

They could easily find extra time to remember who was significant in the Industry by stopping the unfunny corny chintzy scripted chatter when presenters come to the podium, and they can take time from the rambling host.

No they could not. They are producing a television show. Part of that requires them to keep things moving and bring on more celebrities.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Joe 1956   (Member)

They could easily find extra time to remember who was significant in the Industry by stopping the unfunny corny chintzy scripted chatter when presenters come to the podium, and they can take time from the rambling host.

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No they could not. They are producing a television show. Part of that requires them to keep things moving and bring on more celebrities.


Huh? In 3-plus hours?

And that's why I haven't watched one since the early '80's.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Vaughn should have been obvious.
It's Prince that was on the fringe--a musician that did a bit of acting.


Prince won two Oscars. Vaughn won zero Oscars. What were you saying again?



I said it perfectly the first time.
Both points.

Is your new point meant to convey that if you are a previous winner you automatically get a pic up?
Or are you just trying to say that x MUST equal Y?

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

So do I understand correctly that Prince got a shout-out?


Prince was an Oscar-winning composer, so his inclusion makes sense.



No argument there.
I am simply saying that Vaughn's inclusion would have made even more sense.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Vaughn should have been obvious.
It's Prince that was on the fringe--a musician that did a bit of acting.

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Prince won two Oscars. Vaughn won zero Oscars. What were you saying again?



I can accept winning Oscars as a criterion. (BTW, I'm only aware of Prince winning a single Oscar.) But then how to explain the appearance of Mary Tyler Moore? She also won zero Oscars, and made far fewer films than Vaughn.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2017 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

This is for you, Mr. Solo--you dashing, magnificent bastard you.

Robert Francis Vaughn (1932 – 2016)
Actor

Insults swallowed, none. Enemies, none.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2017 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

On the whole, one thing I do think is generally admirable about the Oscar In Memoriam is the way it includes the whole spectrum of cinema's arts and crafts, not just the "above the line" actors, writers and directors. That said, I can be as griped as the next guy about omissions. Even though I'm not surprised at his exclusion, I personally would love to have seen recognition for Steven Hill. Yes, he did more on TV than in movies, but he did do exceptional work in the notable films he did manage to include in his resume -- THE FIRM and RUNNING ON EMPTY, for instance -- and I happen to think he was a great talent. I wish I could have seen him as a young man on Broadway, when reportedly the consensus was that the best up-and-comer was a toss-up between him and Brando.

I was saddened to learn of Bill Nunn's passing, and I think it's interesting that they not only included him in the montage but chose a clip from DO THE RIGHT THING, often regarded as one of the Academy's biggest sins of omission in the Best Picture nominations. I also find it ironic that his big moment in that film came when he recreated, in street-lingo, the Preacher's "Love and Hate" sermon from THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, whereas -- and this is my biggest gripe with this year's segment -- no mention was made of Billy Chapin.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2017 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Another big name that was excluded from the In Memorium segment this year was James Bond director Guy Hamilton, who died in April 2016. The Oscar telecast should have dispensed with one of the parachute drops of candy and donuts and extended the In Memorium segment by another 60 seconds instead.

 
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