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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: One Thing We Can All Agree On...     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 6:21 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) MCA vinyl in the US in the 1970s was pretty awful, wasn't it? And don't turn this into another vinyl-hating thread. I am talking specifically about 1970s MCA vinyl in the US.    Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 6:44 PM     By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member) MCA vinyl in the US in the 1970s was pretty awful, wasn't it? And don't turn this into another vinyl-hating thread. I am talking specifically about 1970s MCA vinyl in the US. I'm not a vinyl hater, and yes, I find myself agreeing with you completely about the cheap-ass vinyl put out by MCA, at least insofar as their reissues of MGM soundtracks are concerned. I am not aware of what else they may have been grinding out in those days...    Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 8:39 PM     By:   LordDalek   (Member) Well yeah. There's a reason why Uni and Decca USA pressings are considered more desirable than the later mid-70s reissues of old Who, Neil Diamond, and Elton John LPs. Those MCA discs were barely better than Dynaflex. Oh and don't get me started on Steely Dan... Gaucho *shudder*.    Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 8:42 PM     By:   LordDalek   (Member) Well yeah. There's a reason why Uni and Decca USA pressings are considered more desirable than the later mid-70s reissues of old Who, Neil Diamond, and Elton John LPs. Those MCA discs were barely better than Dynaflex. Oh and don't get me started on Steely Dan... Gaucho *shudder*.    Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 8:45 PM     By:   ANDREW   (Member) Never forget talking to my soundtrack store guys in Sydney in the early 80s about the US PRESSING OF SOMEWHERE IN TIME. INCREDIBLY noisy pressing with bits of paper embedded in the vinyl!!!! They told me that the record plant would toss returned and unsold lps into whatever tub or container was used to melt vinyl down - LABELS INCLUDED - and new lps were pressed from this recycled vinyl, paper bits of label included!! I still find this amazing and cheap. Quality of their covers in 70s and early 80s were not of the highest quality, either...    Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 11:14 PM     By:   RoryR   (Member) I guess there won't be a second season of Vinyl.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 4:45 AM     By:   pp312   (Member) new lps were pressed from this recycled vinyl, paper bits of label included!! Is that what I was hearing. And here I thought the mafia was using LP pressing plants to get rid of some of their dead bodies.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 4:51 AM     By:   LordDalek   (Member) Reground Vinyl was a fairly common thing in the 70s and 80s. Especially during the Oil Crisis when manufacturing costs sky rocketed.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 6:00 AM     By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member) I think they improved towards the late 1980s. By then, good quality vinyl was lighter too. I have a few MCA with great sound. As often, things reached a zenith just as the format became outdated. Such is life.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 6:34 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I thought the thread title was a new movie, because in reality there's nothing we can all agree on...    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 7:08 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) Almost everybody cut corners in that decade! Even the high-end classical labels like Phillips were guilty. I had to return three successive copies of a Colin Davis Berlioz album on account of faulty surfaces. When I opened the third copy, I saw that somebody had previously taken a ballpoint and gouged the word "defective" right across the grooves. And the distributor just repackaged the thing and tried to sell it again! Discerning collectors sought European pressings instead of the American product in those days. The Orion Rozsa albums were particularly awful. I was so glad to get them years later on CD.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 7:32 AM     By:   RoryR   (Member) The economy wasn't exactly the greatest in the '70s. Cut them some slack, not that it matters 40 years later. Long over and done with.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 8:24 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Those MCA discs were barely better than Dynaflex. You know what's funny, I have over the decades picked up a couple of Dynaflex LPs that sound amazing. Maybe I lucked out and got the first copy pressed with a new master. I have two copies of Henry Mancini's "Mr. Lucky" on vinyl: A pristine mono copy, and a stereo copy on Dynaflex. It sounds incredible. I never found a stereo black dog label of that title that sounds better. But I get what you are saying.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 12:52 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Did you ever notice how when those Decca albums kept getting reissued over the decades, each new reissue Xeroxed the rear cover art off of the most recent version? By the time you get to MCA pressings in the 1980s, the liner notes are barely legible.    Posted:   Feb 26, 2017 - 4:37 AM     By:   afn   (Member) Completely agree with you! Terrible and lousy. Also the "MCA movie orchestra" sound quality was always the tinniest and worst of all. Lots of strange "distant" sounding reverb as if the mics were positioned somewhere outside the studio. Take THE EIGER SANCTION: great score, one of my favorites, but the sound is as "MCA 70s" as it can get, along with AIRPORT 1975. Is there any info on why many mid-70s scores had that particular thin and reverberant sound? Was it the engineers, or the preferred sound of the time, or just downsized smaller orchestras which they wanted to somehow sound "larger" with tons of reverb? I mean, compare all that to 1979's STAR TREK (or 1977's STAR WARS of course) - can you imagine these fabulous and full-bodied recordings sound like the former? What made the difference? Was, say, 1976 or 1977, really the watershed to again full and good sounding recordings? My other worst MCA pressing quality picks are THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM, THE ROBE and THE EGYPTIAN. BTW: And oh, those Dynaflex LPs sounded just great! I have some Mancini LPs from the early 70s and I wonder why they didn't use that material more? When did Dynaflex stop being used anyway?    Posted:   Feb 26, 2017 - 5:22 AM     By:   Rameau   (Member) new lps were pressed from this recycled vinyl, paper bits of label included!! Is that what I was hearing. And here I thought the mafia was using LP pressing plants to get rid of some of their dead bodies. Yeah, by the end of the seventies all LPs sounded terrible...I still love CDs    Posted:   May 7, 2017 - 5:13 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Listening to "Billion Dollar Brain" on MCA vinyl. What crap.    Posted:   May 7, 2017 - 7:40 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) yep. and those RCA Flexi-discs,,,,,,, bro    Posted:   May 7, 2017 - 7:40 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) yep. and those RCA Flexi-discs,,,,,,, bro    Posted:   May 7, 2017 - 7:43 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) ...Lehah is an a.......hole     General Discussion: One Thing We Can All Agree On...    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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