"Wasn't there a Goldsmith quote where he said it was the first thing he'd heard by Horner that he actually liked?"
I recall hearing it said that when told about some Horner score or another that Goldsmith replied "What did I sound like this time?"
I also heard the story (almost certainly not true) about James Cameron shouting at Horner during the scoring of Aliens "If I had wanted Jerry Goldsmith I'd have hired Jerry Goldsmith!"
So are there any quotes from or these two composers (or others) about each other that can actually be backed up?
Apparently Goldsmith wishes he'd scored Field of Dreams.
Also:
“And don’t forget your old boyfriend; he went from ‘Jamie’ to ‘James’, and look what that did for his career.”
Dad was talking about composer James Horner, who I’d known in high school through a friend of mine he was dating…Dad loved to exaggerate my one outing with Jamie Horner into boyfriend proportions… -- Carrie Goldsmith, http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/spotlight_biography_preview.htm
If there are any, does it really matter now anyway?
Both men are gone, and any quotes being sought out are clearly for negative reasons, just to see who talked shit about the other, which just makes either of them look bad in the eyes of fans here, and why that seems to be necessary...especially considering that even if there were negative quotes, fans have said FAR worse with the cloak of internet anonymity.
"He's....eclectic." Is another Jerry quote about Horner that I recall.
I wonder if the Cameron incident (if any of this is true) was in response to the Capricorn One music in Aliens.
Just guessing here of course, but I would think if Cameron had an objection it would have been to some of the more direct quotations of motifs and ideas in the first ALIEN score. Especially the two-note flute subject that figures prominently in both. I wasn't as bothered by this as some of Horner's other borrowings because I assumed he was striving for some unity with the previous film. All that aside how fantastic it would be if we could have heard Jerry's take on the second film, as different as it was in tone from the first. Considering the fate of the music in the first one, the redemption would have been especially sweet.
(Edit: I guess we did get some idea since Cameron resorted to unused Goldsmith from the first score in some of the climactic moments.)
I wonder if the Cameron incident (if any of this is true) was in response to the Capricorn One music in Aliens.
Variations of this story have been passed around with a lot of composer names substituted. Bernard Herrmann said in an interview with Royal S. Brown that Hitchcock told Mancini the same thing (with Herrmann's name inserted) at the recording sessions for "Frenzy," though that account is also apparently apocryphal. Unless Cameron was paraphrasing, I seriously doubt this really happened.
Ah true. And yeah, I absolutely love Horner's ALIENS, but in a parallel universe somewhere I'd love to hear what Jerry would have done. I'm guessing he would have used some Rambo/Poltergeist II type synth alongside the orchestra.
Ah true. And yeah, I absolutely love Horner's ALIENS, but in a parallel universe somewhere I'd love to hear what Jerry would have done. I'm guessing he would have used some Rambo/Poltergeist II type synth alongside the orchestra.
Maybe. or it might have been closer to the action stuff in Outland.
So in the feature about composing STAR TREK II, in the opening few moments Horner tells that he had "come to know" Jerry Goldsmith.
HORNER: "The big film of the year that I visited was STAR TREK 1 and I went to quite a few of those sessions cause I was curious what Jerry would do and he invited me to the sessions and I hung out a lot and that was sort of a big event for me to see that being conducted and that being put together."
I always notice how Horner rather cleverly borrowed the oscillating string figure heard in Goldsmith's cue "Floating Office" and integrated it into his main title for Wrath of Khan.
I always notice how Horner rather cleverly borrowed the oscillating string figure heard in Goldsmith's cue "Floating Office" and integrated it into his main title for Wrath of Khan.
-Rick O.
What if he didn't? What if it just happened? WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!
