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1- The 97 Special Edition DOES NOT have the film version at the beginning of Disc 2 track 6, 'The Lightsaber', it's an alternate version, not the film version on the YouTube video I first posted.
2- The 97 Special Edition 10:57 "The Emperor Arrives" Disc 1, track 8 IS NOT the film version.
Definitely is the same version, as Jason confirmed.
Thank you Jason, very well explained. I'm sure the reason for the switch was that John Williams' original was longer than the final edit. I wonder if the composer approved it, if he was even aware of it or cared. I heard him say that he rarely watches the final film once it leaves his hands.
This happens all the time with scores tracking in different sections if timing is off, though would likely happen more often now when it is much easier to edit music after recording. Especially for Star Wars, the music spotting prints would have had missing special effects sequences that would have changed the timing slightly. But usually, it comes down to trimming or extending a shot or scene once you have the final clarity of seeing the film in context with the music. In this case, the original music has a lot of slower sections and bridges, and those were trimmed out to keep up the pace, or sections repeated to maintain the tension and action.
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Was the music in the film tracked from somewhere else? Or was it a second recording?
Was it like Hyperspace being used for the snowspeeders or more like there being two recordings for the Imperial Probe?
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Thank you Jason, very well explained. I'm sure the reason for the switch was that John Williams' original was longer than the final edit. I wonder if the composer approved it, if he was even aware of it or cared. I heard him say that he rarely watches the final film once it leaves his hands.
I'm not really sure what you can mean by "composer approved" - Of course it was John Williams who wrote and recorded the two Inserts.
Sometimes John - or any composer - writes and records something, the director sees it placed under his picture, and he asks for a change.
Absolutely nothing weird or unusual here whatsoever.
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Was the music in the film tracked from somewhere else? Or was it a second recording?
Was it like Hyperspace being used for the snowspeeders or more like there being two recordings for the Imperial Probe?
There was no tracking, it was two Inserts written and recorded by John Williams.
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Was the music in the film tracked from somewhere else? Or was it a second recording?
Was it like Hyperspace being used for the snowspeeders or more like there being two recordings for the Imperial Probe?
There was no tracking, it was two Inserts written and recorded by John Williams.
I thought you had, but then people started talking about Williams not being involved so I thought I had misread. I'm back on the side of the righteous. Thanks!
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I suppose it made more sense at the time to "hide" the inserts in the main program where they fit musically well enough with surrounding music, rather than having them appear as really short bonus tracks.
Obviously, the Mike of 2017 would do things differently than the Mike of 1997 did.
The 1997 sets were an extremely rushed production.
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Jason, whatever Williams re-recorded wasn't used in the final version *as he recorded*. My question is, did he approve the final remix? It was taken from 3 excerpts that he recorded, that is clear, but did he supervise the remix? And why wasn't his original recording used, too long, too short? Thanks in advance.
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I couldn't possibly answer any of those questions.
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Popped in to bitch juuuust enough so that all the tracks are separated on any future Star Wars editions.
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Hmm. All I can tell you is what I would do because of MY preference for the presentation of film scores; I would insert the FILM versions, then put the originals/alternates at the end.
(Hondo voice) My friend, my friend!
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Having "The Battle In The Snow" stuck inside a 15 minute suite was an absolute travesty. Like I've been saying for years, if a cue has a unique opening (like "The Battle In The Snow" sure as shit does), you don't put it in a combo suite. Like "The Hounds Of Sumner" on LLL's Rosewood, the first other example that popped into my head. Ridiculous. Ridiculous!
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