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Feb 13, 2017 - 1:27 PM
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Warlok
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Since nobody bit in the thread that impelled me previously...
Extraterrestrial life is real. We already know this.
Carl Sagan famously spoke about extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence, which is absolutely true. Now out there in The World are all sorts of fantastical claims and half-myths pertaining to UFOs, ranging from the amusing-to-contemplate to the outrageous. A person who lives by reason hears such things and ponders the process by which new supernatural - new mythology - is created.
BUT...
... In the battle of Britain, a technology war was waged. Germany was going to crush the UK air force unless some way to smartly wield their comparatively limited air power could be found. They found it. Radar. Using the at-the-time primitive radar systems, Britain detected German planes at speed and altitude, accurately, and sent planes to intercept. Throughout this time, both sides invented and counter-invented various radar technologies to detect aerial signatures and to guide bombers onto targets.
They trusted the absolute scientific efficacy of radar.
During the Cold War, before the advent of the ICBM, the western continent feared a bomber strike from over the poles, or down through Alaska. Soviet bombers could in a short time fly over North American cities and release nuclear payloads. To thwart this threat (at least to some extent) detection systems were created. NORAD came into being. Soviet counter-parts were created. Essentially high-tech radar installations that monitored & tracked movement through the atmosphere of airborne masses.
They knew that radar worked. Concrete science.
Since then, various developments in radar-defeating craft or missiles cause alarm bells to ring. Stealth technology to counter the ever-present reliability of radar.
And now, with the heaviest of cynic hats upon you, ponder how it is that suddenly with the subject of UFOs, all these radar technologies - developed, tested, refined over the last 75 years - are suddenly untrustworthy, unreliable, and fraught with degrees of ambiguous interpretation. Bullshit.
Radar contacts, tracks, and signatures show we have constructs at various times in Earth atmosphere, executing maneuvers that are well-beyond the capacities of current and past Earth technology, and that therefore these must be engineerings of foreign intelligent life. Aliens are real.
NOW look upon that body of mythology and ask if all of it is still fanciful.
Thank you for your time.
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. There's zero credible evidence intelligent life ever visited Earth.
All these antidotes falls flat on their face....
SOLIUM is proof of that
btw its "anecdotes" not antitdotes.
brm
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Warlock,
i have given up debating two subjects:
Was their a conspiracy in the Kennedy assassination?
Are UFOs and alien abductions really happening?
Its like debating whether the Holocaust was real.
get my drift?
bruce
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I'm a UFO "believer" for decades...but just because radars track unknown objects doesn't prove said objects are aliens. We need more definitive evidence...like alloys not found on Earth, or live or dead E.T.
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I've often wondered why...if aliens are so secretive and stealthy...why they cover their ships with such dazzling nighttime light displays.
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"A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence...There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics they miss out on seeing the whole thing." -REPO MAN.
Which is a good quote.
When people talk infinity and infinite distances, they have to get to a paradox mentality, which sadly we're not at yet. We can't go politics, but that particular sphere shows that, a century after Einstein's special relativity we still think Newton rules and polarization is the way to approach everything. Which it shouldn't be. Even the Hindus and Buddhists had better understanding of interrelatedness via the big bang.
That said, as far as radar is concerned, you need to remember that the whole development of radar is shrouded in obfuscation because both sides kept their discoveries secret. I forget the details, but the Germans had effective radar too of a different kind, I think Britain used a newer triangulation system or something. And, since radar was still comparatively new, it's only to be expected that 'new' sightings of anomalies wouldn't have appeared before the late '40s, which means nothing in one way, but in another it simply implies that these anomalies are part of the normal workings and limitations of radar itself.
There's no evidence either way, but to deny the likelihood is as wrong as to swallow whole.
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You dont need radar to spot weird aliens. They are in full, brazen display on FSM every day!! 
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I personally can't make that leap of faith, though I've entertained the idea of it when I was younger. Now, I just see absolutely zero evidence of it outside the anecdotal, which just doesn't cut for me.
Add the notion that time-travel might someday be accomplished, or that it has already somewhere else, and options are still viable. It looks impossible by today's physics at our level of size, but it goes with the territory that it could be millennia before it's achieved, so the statistics about space could also be applied to time: i.e. instead of saying, the statistical probability of intelligent life out there is vast because so is the universe, try saying, 'The statistical probability of a future generation overcoming obstacles to time-travel is vast because the future is vast'. Certainly if they did visit us, they'd (a) stay discreet so as not to influence time and (b), have such a vast amount of history to pick from, they'd but rarely come to our particular time.
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