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 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Oh yeah, Damien: Omen II is the less-loved middle child, but it's totally brilliant in its own way. (I love how all three Omen scores are so very different and varied from each other.) And it's the only Deluxe Edition where Varese originally included the complete score (PLUS the unique LP recording). (Varese just last year added the cues missing from their original Omen DE to their 40th Anniversary edition.) QBVII/Salamander/Hour of the Gun are higher priorities though, especially since you love Tadlow. And the Varese Red Pony is on a ridiculous $11 sale new from them.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Oh yeah, Damien: Omen II is the less-loved middle child, but it's totally brilliant in its own way. (I love how all three Omen scores are so very different and varied from each other.) And it's the only Deluxe Edition where Varese originally included the complete score (PLUS the unique LP recording). (Varese just last year added the cues missing from their original Omen DE to their 40th Anniversary edition.) QBVII/Salamander/Hour of the Gun are higher priorities though, especially since you love Tadlow. And the Varese Red Pony is on a ridiculous $11 sale new from them.

Yavar


Red Pony and the Alamo were about to get their trigger pushed when I was righteously reminded the Tadlow KoK is a priority. I already talked my s.o. into the Alamo...maybe I can get the Pony the same way (conniver that I am).

QB VII is definitely top priority, have been soaking up the youtube clips practically all week. But darn it, now you've put a bug in my ear on Omen II!!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Is there more than one amazing Youtube clip for QBVII?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I think I was throwing in the video from Tadlow, but fuller representations on youtube come and go. One time I saw the entire Tadlow Alamo on youtube, but it got taken down pretty posthasty.

Sure, if you're like me and spend time browsing youtube for scores you'll see good stuff come and go (copyright invocation has a lot to do with it I'm sure). You probably knew that.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Ah, got it. Can't wait to hear what you think of QBVII. For me it's like getting at least four great Goldsmith scores in one, as it is (I think) his longest score and it has such a variety of different style for the varied parts of the story. Also great use of choir predating The Omen!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Ah, got it. Can't wait to hear what you think of QBVII. For me it's like getting at least four great Goldsmith scores in one, as it is (I think) his longest score and it has such a variety of different style for the varied parts of the story. Also great use of choir predating The Omen!

Yavar


I had a choice between that and Wind & The Lion for my next JG, but both your hearty reccomendations and the seriously great samples I've heard decided it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Y'know, if you don't have the amazing SAE release of Captain from Castile -- one of Newman's very greatest scores -- that should really be a priority ahead of A Certain Smile, much as I do like the latter.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Y'know, if you don't have the amazing SAE release of Captain from Castile -- one of Newman's very greatest scores -- that should really be a priority ahead of A Certain Smile, much as I do like the latter.

Yavar


I know which one you mean, it's in my SAE wish list smile

I was really taken away by the strings on A Certain Smile. Alfred's writing can be so beautiful...just think of that gorgeous yet really sad main theme from Greatest Story (or the Robe for that matter). When I listen to clips from ...Smile I heard a brighter side to that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2017 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Y'know, if you don't have the amazing SAE release of Captain from Castile -- one of Newman's very greatest scores -- that should really be a priority ahead of A Certain Smile, much as I do like the latter.

Yavar


I know which one you mean, it's in my SAE wish list smile

I was really taken away by the strings on A Certain Smile. Alfred's writing can be so beautiful...just think of that gorgeous yet really sad main theme from Greatest Story (or the Robe for that matter). When I listen to clips from ...Smile I heard a brighter side to that.


If you look in the trading post, A certain Smile is selling for $10.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2017 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)



If you look in the trading post, A certain Smile is selling for $10.


Judging by what arrived today, that's a steal.

This is a magical score, I think I like it as much as Peyton Place (and I'm cuckoo over PP, perhaps Waxman's masterpiece).

I'm in love with A Certain Smile, and my regard for Newman goes even higher.

Note: this appraisal is from one who skips the "songs" and also the Muzak "party" cue (from this day forward, bad stuff to my ears. Granted, he probably meant it to sound plastic given the setting).

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm in love with A Certain Smile, and my regard for Newman goes even higher.

Note: this appraisal is from one who skips the "songs" and also the Muzak "party" cue (from this day forward, bad stuff to my ears. Granted, he probably meant it to sound plastic given the setting).


Sounds like a candidate for the "Source Music as Composer Parody" thread. Do jump in if you have any other examples of this:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=75019&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I'm in love with A Certain Smile, and my regard for Newman goes even higher.

Note: this appraisal is from one who skips the "songs" and also the Muzak "party" cue (from this day forward, bad stuff to my ears. Granted, he probably meant it to sound plastic given the setting).


Sounds like a candidate for the "Source Music as Composer Parody" thread. Do jump in if you have any other examples of this:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=75019&forumID=1&archive=0


Sure Jim, done!

This score was the final notch that placed Alfred in my top three film composers. He'd already blown me away with Diary of Anne Frank, Song of Bernadette, the Robe, Hunchback, Man Called Peter, and ESPECIALLY Greatest Story Ever Told. This brighter side to his writing impresses me mightily. He was truly a maestro imo.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I think part of my infatuation with "Certain" has to do with my having gotten so much into The Greatest Story Ever Told score. After weeks of being amazed by what was overall kind of a dour, sad soundtrack Certain Smile shows the more light side of Newman's genius.

I imagine when I receive the two disc How the West was Won I'll hear more of both, especially the latter.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I agree. I much enjoy the happier feel of A Certain Smile over some of the other more dramatic works of Newman. Glad you are enjoying it as much as I do!

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I agree. I much enjoy the happier feel of A Certain Smile over some of the other more dramatic works of Newman. Glad you are enjoying it as much as I do!

I was smiling halfway through the first cue (which as you might have guessed was most certainly NOT the Mathis song lol!). The highlights on A Certain Smile contain magic...

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)



Like I said in another thread concerning this score by Mr. Newman: I pity the fools who didn't get this. razz Great score, great release by the triple L.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)



Like I said in another thread concerning this score by Mr. Newman: I pity the fools who didn't get this. razz Great score, great release by the triple L.


La La Land did amazingly, I love their Egyptian as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Newman was a master recycler of his own music, in a great golden period for it.

Johnny Mathis sets a nice steady mood for Newman's entire score, its real quality in writing strings, woods, great brass section, & bold horn passages, etc.

Considering the score is 60 years old, it doesn't feel out of place its still fresh, I like it nice score.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Newman was a master recycler of his own music, in a great golden period for it.

Johnny Mathis sets a nice steady mood for Newman's entire score, its real quality in writing strings, woods, great brass section, & bold horn passages, etc.

Considering the score is 60 years old, it doesn't feel out of place its still fresh, I like it nice score.


I could cheer A Certain Smile's score for days on end. I guess that's what makes the "Party" cue sound out of place. The writing is so expressive and lovely throughout that hearing the (probably intentional) plasticity of that cue can be a bit unnerving to me.

That said, I paid about 18 US for this cd and would have paid twice that if it had been out of print.

 
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