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Jan 29, 2017 - 2:21 PM
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RoryR
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Zardoz - I really love the Losey film (THESE ARE) THE DAMNED. It's not completely successful, being a bit of a dog's dinner, but as failures go it's absolutely fascinating
The two leads are seriously miscast, in my opinion. It throws the whole thing off.
I LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
Oh, sorry, I was getting carried away with a Joan Hue thing there.
I don't actually love it, but I like it a lot. Have it on DVD and all that. I don't find it miscast especially, only that MacDonald Carey is a bit of a stiff, but Shirley Ann Field? She can give me a "stiffy."
And Oliver Reed is so menacing, and yet... he's really just a teddy bear, or is that supposed to be a teddy boy?
By the way, I would call Reed's Bill Sykes the cinema's sexy Bill Sykes. Dangerous to know, but probably a great shag -- not that I could get into it, of course, just sayin.'
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Jan 29, 2017 - 2:22 PM
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Rameau
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I haven't seen The Damned in decades, I know it's all over the place, disgruntled youths, nihilistic b/w science fiction, a very odd film, but worth seeing, & there's...Black leather, black leather, crash crash crash. I have the DVD, I'll have to give it a run. And for Reed in full bonkers mode, Paranoiac, the first X certificate film I ever saw at the cinema (it supported Kiss Of The Vampire), I have that in Universal's excellent Hammer Blu-ray box set.
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Jan 29, 2017 - 2:30 PM
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Graham Watt
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I'm glad Reed existed, and I often enjoy watching him in movies (good and bad), but at the same time I always feel unsettled by him - not because of the hard man movie image schtick, but because he always emitted an aura of deep, deep unhappiness, drunk or sober. I see it constantly in him. It's never off. Upper middle-class boy and all that, but god knows what happened to him in childhood.
Did you read my incredibly long real-life jobby about him in one of the earlier threads here, Heath? Armchair psychiatry.
Agreed about the leads in THE DAMNED. MacDonald Cary was like a dirty old reptilian perv, and Shirley Ann Field's acting was atrocious, but then you had people like Viveca Lindfors, wonderfully atmospheric photography, a haunting score from James Bernard, a fascinating jumble of ideas, and Ollie Reed as a radioactive thug ("It's been like this since we was kids!").
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Jan 29, 2017 - 2:31 PM
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RoryR
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I haven't seen The Damned in decades, I know it's all over the place, disgruntled youths, nihilistic b/w science fiction, a very odd film, but worth seeing, & there's...Black leather, black leather, crash crash crash. I have the DVD, I'll have to give it a run. And for Reed in full bonkers mode, Paranoiac, the first X certificate film I ever saw at the cinema (it supported Kiss Of The Vampire), I have that in Universal's excellent Hammer Blu-ray box set.
Yeah, man, you dig it, too!
And I actually have PARANOIAC on Blu-ray now, but have yet to watch it. Watched it on DVD about a decade ago. It's like a poor man's PSYCHO.
Now let's talk THE GREAT SCOUT & CATHOUSE THURSDAY and Oliver Reed's performance as Joe Knox.
Good, or ob'knox'ious?
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Zardoz - I really love the Losey film (THESE ARE) THE DAMNED. It's not completely successful, being a bit of a dog's dinner, but as failures go it's absolutely fascinating
The two leads are seriously miscast, in my opinion. It throws the whole thing off.
I LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
Oh, sorry, I was getting carried away with a Joan Hue thing there.
I don't actually love it, but I like it a lot. Have it on DVD and all that. I don't find it miscast especially, only that MacDonald Carey is a bit of a stiff, but Shirley Ann Field? She can give me a "stiffy."
And Oliver Reed is so menacing, and yet... he's really just a teddy bear, or is that supposed to be a teddy boy?
By the way, I would call Reed's Bill Sykes the cinema's sexy Bill Sykes. Dangerous to know, but probably a great shag -- not that I could get into it, of course, just sayin.'
are you on drugs tonight? Or Reed-level pissed in honour of this thread?? 
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Forgot to say, thought he was great in The Hunting Party.
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Jan 29, 2017 - 3:08 PM
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Heath
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I'm glad Reed existed, and I often enjoy watching him in movies (good and bad), but at the same time I always feel unsettled by him - not because of the hard man movie image schtick, but because he always emitted an aura of deep, deep unhappiness, drunk or sober. I see it constantly in him. It's never off. Upper middle-class boy and all that, but god knows what happened to him in childhood.
Did you read my incredibly long real-life jobby about him in one of the earlier threads here, Heath? Armchair psychiatry.
Agreed about the leads in THE DAMNED. MacDonald Cary was like a dirty old reptilian perv, and Shirley Ann Field's acting was atrocious, but then you had people like Viveca Lindfors, wonderfully atmospheric photography, a haunting score from James Bernard, a fascinating jumble of ideas, and Ollie Reed as a radioactive thug ("It's been like this since we was kids!").
Yes, read that. It's a telling snapshot of an aimless boozer with money really. Of course there are a million aimless boozers WITHOUT money to be found on a million street corners. They all have their reasons I guess, but at the bottom of it is something pretty bad (no shit Sherlock  )
It's a pity about the leads in The Damned because the rest of the casting is so good. I think the film survives on a lot of sheer good will among critics despite this flaw. But I think it would have earned an even better reputation without it. It's kind of sad how often UK films would hire slightly over the hill, 2nd order US stars who, through no fault of their own, came over as "dirty old reptilian pervs". Oh well.  And shall we say that Shirley Ann Field, though an extraordinary beauty, was.... uhhh.... inexperienced? Certainly at that point in her career.
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Typical with me, I prefer an artiste's early works in black-and-white prior to any 'star' status.
When I began watching the beginning seasons of The Saint I was surprised to see Oliver Reed as a guest in 2 of these monochrome segments - and one of them ["Sophia"] was directed by leading man Roger Moore!
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The other one "King of the Beggars" is a must see. In one scene The Saint is demonstrating self-defense techniques to a group of street people and calls up Oliver Reed as a demonstree.
Templar trips him up with a cane and Reed does a 360 degree flip right on to his back - no stuntman, no padding!!! What a guy!
brm
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