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 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

This is one of my favorite episodes of the Outer Limits. The plot, while compelling, is very implausible, as it is difficult to imagine that an agent of a major foreign power could ever be elected President of the United States. The score by Dominic Frontiere is top-notch, as usual, and was included both on the single-disc and box set Outer Limits releases.

This is a thread to discuss the the episode and the score.

Here is a suite of the music:

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Years ago i asked about this music and some knowledgeable fellow on here identified the episode for me. Very good stuff - along with Barquero and Washington behind close doors main theme i think its Frontiere's best music ever.
Good shout onya.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Hi, Onya.

You might remember that I discussed this segment in other (prior) threads around here on OL.
Not only is there a 50th-anniversary thread I did in 2013 but also another in which I ask FSMers to rank Frontiere's music scores.

You also might recall that my opinions about this episode are much lower than yours.

I'm curious, though, how an implausible story can simultaneously yield a favorite episode?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I'm curious, though, how an implausible story can simultaneously yield a favorite episode?

I just mean that, while the idea of the United States becoming a dictatorship makes for great TV and cinema entertainment, we all know that such as scenario is impossible in the real world.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm curious, though, how an implausible story can simultaneously yield a favorite episode?

I just mean that, while the idea of the United States becoming a dictatorship makes for great TV and cinema entertainment, we all know that such as scenario is impossible in the real world.


One man's republic is another man's dictatorship. If I understand the IChing message at the end of the "Man In High Castle" novel, which I'll add as a spoiler in case Netflix will maintain it, the government necessarily had to become like it's enemy in order to defeat it; we just dont see the similarity because it superficially appears as our classic American democracy. I disagree with Dick's assertion (or metaphor) - he also thought we were living in the shadow of the Roman Empire under Nixon, but that's drugs for ya.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I'm curious, though, how an implausible story can simultaneously yield a favorite episode?

I just mean that, while the idea of the United States becoming a dictatorship makes for great TV and cinema entertainment, we all know that such as scenario is impossible in the real world.


First of all, most fiction in general, and especially science fiction, is implausible, and yet we love it.

As for US becoming a dictatorship, how long did the republic last with ancient Rome? Gore Vidal predicted it'll happen to US.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

As for US becoming a dictatorship, how long did the republic last with ancient Rome? Gore Vidal predicted it'll happen to US.

He also famously said, "If you don't look good, we don't look good."

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm curious, though, how an implausible story can simultaneously yield a favorite episode?

I just mean that, while the idea of the United States becoming a dictatorship makes for great TV and cinema entertainment, we all know that such as scenario is impossible in the real world.


I don't know whether to laugh or cry over that statement.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)


I just mean that, while the idea of the United States becoming a dictatorship makes for great TV and cinema entertainment, we all know that such as scenario is impossible in the real world.


I don't know whether to laugh or cry over that statement.

I think he was being ironic.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

First of all, most fiction in general, and especially science fiction, is implausible, and yet we love it.


Sure, we realize that. But The Outer Limits has many episodes better than The Hundred Days of the Dragon.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Sure, we realize that. But The Outer Limits has many episodes better than The Hundred Days of the Dragon.

Of course there are better episodes. I just think it's interesting to consider what it may be like if a puppet of a totalitarian superpower were installed as President of the U.S. This could never happen in real life, of course, but it makes for great fiction.

 
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