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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I was just listening to the commentary track on the new Twilight Time Blu Ray of the film, which is by Nick Redman and Julie Kirgo. Over the end credits, they reveal something exciting!


NR: What a beautiful score, I mean what....John Williams is a man who has written many, and I mean many, wonderful, memorable scores.  This is a guy who can write themes like nobody's business, and in this simple delicate story he's given you not only a beautiful theme but so many different variations on that theme.  It's almost a monothematic score, but he's such a pro, that he can dress it up in, you know, any which way from Sunday and give it to you differently, and it's just one of his little minor masterworks that nobody remembers, nobody talks about...

JK: Well, they will now, honey!

NR: They will now for 2 reasons, because... one is because our music editor Mike Matessino is very close with John Williams' management.  When this film came out, Varese Sarabande released a very short record, it was only about 27 minutes long, an album and a CD, and so now as a result of our putting out this on Blu Ray there will be a new CD that Varese will do, an extended version, to tie in with our isolated score track which has been prepared with the approval of John Williams and his management.  And I'd like to think that with Mike Matessino at the helm that it will now sound better than its ever sounded before.  We've gone back to the multitracks and remixed it, it should sound a treat.

JK: It's fantastic.


Can't wait!


BTW, if you hadn't heard, the new Blu Ray not only is the premiere of the film in this format and has the brand new commentary track, but contains an isolated music track as well! The credit in the booklet says "Isolated Score Tracks Prepared by Mike Matessino" and it contains not only all the music heard in the film (which is both score and original source cues by Williams), but several times the music continues on to contain the full recorded cue if it was dialed out in the final film. Neat! Also of note is that it was entirely created fresh by Matessino from the 3 channel stereo original session elements; No music stem stuff was used at all. It's presented in as 3 channel (LCR) lossless audio track, too!

You can order the Twilight Time Blu Ray here:

http://www.twilighttimemovies.com/stanley-and-iris-blu-ray/

http://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/32374

And hopefully Varese announces the upcoming Deluxe Edition (I assume that's how it will be branded anyway) real soon!













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Stanley & Iris is one of John Williams’ most delicate and beautiful film scores. Piano, flute and strings show the maestro at his very best here, with gentle and loving melodies for the film’s characters played by Robert DeNiro and Jane Fonda. The film was directed by Martin Ritt (Norma Rae, The Long Hot Summer).

John Williams turned 85 in February and he has now been scoring films and television for 60 years. We couldn’t be happier about celebrating such a milestone birthday with a new Deluxe Edition of this very special score.

Adding to the celebration, we took things even further. In 1972 John composed another beautiful score for Martin’s Ritt’s Pete ‘N’ Tillie, which starred Walter Matthau and Carol Burnett in another poignant relationship drama. In this case, however, there was never a soundtrack album released, so this new CD marks the world premiere release of John Williams’ score. This comes from the year of The Poseidon Adventure, The Cowboys and Images. Pete ‘N’ Tillie is not a long score, but at nearly 20:00 of never-before-released John Williams, this is a major discovery and release.  The Deluxe Edition was produced by Robert Townson and Michael Matessino.

Stanley & Iris. In this socially conscious drama with romantic overtones, Iris (Jane Fonda) is a working mother with a job at a large commercial bakery who is still getting over the death of her husband, though her circumstances don't give her much time to grieve. She's sharing her house with her two children, Kelly (Martha Plimpton) and Richard (Harley Cross), her unemployed sister Sharon (Swoosie Kurtz), and her thuggish brother-in-law. The tensions at home become even greater when teenage Kelly announces that she's pregnant. One of the few bright spots in her life is her blossoming friendship with Stanley (Robert DeNiro), a nice guy who works in the bakery's cafeteria. However, Iris starts noticing a few odd things about Stanley and it slowly dawns on her that he can't read. When the boss figures this out, Stanley loses his job -- an especially troubling development, as Stanley has just had to put his father in a retirement home. Homeless and out of work, Stanley turns to Iris with a special request -- he'd like her to teach him how to read.
 

STANLEY & IRIS (1990):
1. Stanley And Iris (3:26) 
2. The Bicycle (3:09) 
3. The Pink Sweater (1:07) 
4. Iris After Work (:40)
5. Stanley At Work (1:33) 
6. Looking After Papa (3:05)
7. Entering The Library (1:07) 
8. Night Visit (2:00) 
9. Factory Work (1:26) 
10. Naming The Trees (3:37)
11. Finding A Family (1:42) 
12. Lost In The Streets (2:56)
13. Stanley’s Invention (1:18) 
14. The Kitchen Table (1:06)
15. Seeing The Baby (1:15) 
16. Reading Lessons (2:28)
17. Growing Together (2:09) 
18. Putting It All Together (1:47)
19. Letters (3:28) 
20. End Title (3:04)

FILM VERSIONS: 
21. Stanley And Iris (3:24) 
22. Stanley At Work (1:29) 
23. Looking After Papa (3:11) 
24. Stanley’s Invention (1:18)
25. Putting It All Together (1:49) 
26. Letters (4:00)

PETE ’N’ TILLIE (1972):
27. Pete ’n’ Tillie — Main Title (1:57) 
28. Afterglow (1:46)
29. Marriage Book (1:48) 
30. Bedroom Scene (:57) 
31. Vacation (2:45) 
32. For Robbie (1:33) 
33. Funeral (:52) 
34. Hospital (:42) 
35. End Title and End Cast (3:49) 
36. Love Theme (2:27)


https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/stanley-iris-the-deluxe-edition

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Oh yes, please!

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I had only listened to the one cue off the one Varese Hollywood compilation for years, but then I finally found the LP for like 3 dollars on Amazon and listened to the whole thing--and it's great! Strangely reminds me a bit of Lincoln at times. Beautiful score, much better than the end credits cue would suggest. Recommended as a companion to The Accidental Tourist as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Excellent news!!! Thankssmile

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

In my minds eye I played the End Credits piano cue for Princess Diana when she passed away. It seemed so ftiting to celebrate her life with that cue.

Look fwd to order this come Varese Club's Next batch (around Feb/March)

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

How do you know when their next Club batch is?

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Never been a favorite of mine (not because it's not "Star Wars," just because it always felt a bit twee to me), but I'm always glad for a less-known Williams to get some attention.

How long is the full score? I always assumed it was short, but that's not based on any actual knowledge.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

How do you know when their next Club batch is?

Doesnt it come around the first quarter of every year?

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Never been a favorite of mine (not because it's not "Star Wars," just because it always felt a bit twee to me), but I'm always glad for a less-known Williams to get some attention.

How long is the full score? I always assumed it was short, but that's not based on any actual knowledge.


Twee is exactly how I would describe the end title cue, but there are some great little moments in the rest of the score.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)



How do you know when their next Club batch is?


Doesnt it come around the first quarter of every year?


Looks like they only had a Q1 title 3 out of the last 5 years:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20226-the-specialty-film-score-label-catalog-of-new-titles/

They don't seem to really follow any patterns anymore.

Hopefully, since the Twilight Time commentary mentions this release, Varese will fast-track it and release it as soon as its ready, rather than waiting to release it the same day as a bunch of other titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)

This is my favorite of Williams' more low-key, intimate-drama type of scores; I like it even more than Oscar-nominees Sabrina and The Accidental Tourist. I can't wait for an expanded edition!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I would also favourably compare this score to Accidental Tourist. It's a lovely companion piece for me.
I saw the film when it first came out but can't remember how much extra music was left off the CD or if the score tracks sounded any different to the album tracks.
Did you clock any extra music or notice any differences when you watched it Jason?
I'll take any new or extra JW music on all fronts.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Good comparison Shaun with Accidental Tourist. I put these two in the same vein. Lovely lovely scores both of them. Lighthearted and just pleasant.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

I was just whistling the theme at work the other night! Great, lovely score smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I want to say there's maybe 10 minutes of unused music at most. Probably less. There's a nice version of the main theme when Stanley is showing the kid the trees that would be good to have. The other unused cues I remember being less notable and the kind of stuff that gets left off albums, though I'd love to have it all.

The cue that I go back to the most is Letters which to me is the big "pay off" with the main theme on flute than oboe and a simple but elegant use of counterpoint in the strings. Very moving on its own and even more moving in the film. To me this was a very unique score to a unique film. Small and intimate with sentimentality expressed in a down-to-earth, non-Hollywood kind of way. More and more I gravitate to his smaller scores or smaller moments in big scores that are subtle but poignant.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I finished working my way through the isolated music track earlier tonight, and there's ~42 minutes of score and ~11 minutes of source music in the track (so about ~53 minutes total length).

The score cuts were basically the 28 minutes that are on the OST plus another ~14 minutes of unreleased cues, so all along the OST has only had about 2/3rds of the full score (and just over half of all music recorded).

So I guess the DE will be about 41-42 minutes. That should have been how long the original OST was, they should have just included the entire score the first time around! The unreleased cues are all very much cut from the same cloth as the released ones; There's no wild surprises here. If you like the 28 minutes released, you'll like the 14 minutes unreleased just as much!

I have no clue what the names of the unreleased tracks are, but here's the names I quickly came up with, with lengths, and where they go in a chronological order with the OST tracks

01 OST 01 Stanley And Iris (3:24)
02 OST 03 The Bicycle (3:07)
03 Fortune Cookies (1:08)
04 OST 06 Stanley At Work (1:31)
05 OST 07 Looking After Papa (3:10)
06 Reading Lessons Begin (1:07)
07 OST 09 Night Visit (1:58)
08 Reading Lessons Continue (1:26)
09 The Park (2:20)
10 OST 05 Finding A Family (1:41)
11 The Map Test (2:03)
12 OST 08 Stanley's Invention (1:17)
13 Another Reading Lesson (0:44)
14 OST 04 Factory Work (1:23)
15 OST 02 Reading Lessons (2:26)
16 Two Grown Up People (3:06)
17 OST 11 Putting It All Together (1:46)
18 OST 10 Letters (3:25)
19 The Proposal (1:41)
20 OST 12 End Credits (3:03)

Of course, the Varese DE could be ever longer if any of these cues are edited, and/or he wrote music for any scenes that got entirely deleted from the final cut, and/or any alternates were recorded.


The souce music consisted of two Joe Williams cuts (one rock for the laundromat scene, one soft rock for the bar scene), a public domain high school band piece, A Haydn piece for piano, violin, and cello, and then 3 instrumental christmas carols (Deck The Halls, We Wish You A Merry Christmas, and Hark The Herald Angels Sing) which are really quite nice.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 8:55 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)



How do you know when their next Club batch is?


Doesnt it come around the first quarter of every year?


Looks like they only had a Q1 title 3 out of the last 5 years:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20226-the-specialty-film-score-label-catalog-of-new-titles/

They don't seem to really follow any patterns anymore.

Hopefully, since the Twilight Time commentary mentions this release, Varese will fast-track it and release it as soon as its ready, rather than waiting to release it the same day as a bunch of other titles.


Even if its this title only, February 8th/week could be a good day to release as its Williams 85th Birthday.


 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2017 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

That would be wonderfull, Amer! Especially with the news the Spielberg Volume 3 CD is pushed back to March 17th.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Sign me up - I want this new edition!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Thanks for some good news early in this new year. I haven't happened to listen to the CD since I first got it, so it should be great to get reacquainted with it in optimum form. Especially if it's at all in the same league as ACCIDENTAL TOURIST, A lovely score which always reminded me somewhat of one of my favorite JAWS cues -- the quiet father/son moment where Brody and his little boy make faces at each other across the dinner table.

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BTW, can anyone tell me if Mr. Mattesino wrote the liner notes for the recent JURASSIC PARK box?

 
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