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Jan 17, 2017 - 4:38 PM
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MusicMad
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Sorry to say, Zooba, but Monsignor (1982) was a score which did nothing for me ... nothing positive anyway. Yes, the Main title theme was/is pleasant but, if I recall, the score then became so much of the typical John Williams' sound which I realised was not for me.
Other than subsequently buying Not With My Wife, You Don't! (1966), a double-header with (for me: the far superior) George Duning's Any Wednesday (1966), Monsignor (Intrada) was the last John Williams' score I bought ... and I sold it a few years later. I recall finding the long choral work less than enjoyable ... I think the sleeve notes suggested the fans had been seeking this track! ... but even programming that out didn't make it a score I was going to play. And when I found the market price was healthy it was an irresistible sale.
Maybe if I'd seen the film ... but then I'm not a great JW fan, having tired of his his big majestic scores (I acknowledge they're great ... they just don't hold my interest these days). So you could say it is a significant score to me ... but for the wrong reasons.
I'm sure there will be many positive replies as I know his works are well-loved on this forum.
Mitch
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I believe Monsignor was given the 1982 Golden Raspberry Award for worst score of the year. Obviously more a comment on the film than on the music, because this was hardly the worst of 1982 (that could very well be Williams' own "Yes, Giorgio."). There's some bombast and schmaltz, but also some really lovely string writing ("especially Audience with the Holy Father"). And since it's the London Symphony Orchestra, you know the performances are top-notch.
1982 was the year I really ramped up my interest in filmusic, and I think this was the first non-blockbuster Williams score I ever bought. It revealed to me that he put as much care and craftsmanship into the smaller projects as he did the big ones. I have the original LP and was really happy when Intrada released it on CD.
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Jan 17, 2017 - 5:03 PM
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tranders65
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I believe Monsignor was given the 1982 Golden Raspberry Award for worst score of the year. Obviously more a comment on the film than on the music, because this was hardly the worst of 1982 (that could very well be Williams' own "Yes, Giorgio."). There's some bombast and schmaltz, but also some really lovely string writing ("especially Audience with the Holy Father"). And since it's the London Symphony Orchestra, you know the performances are top-notch.
1982 was the year I really ramped up my interest in filmusic, and I think this was the first non-blockbuster Williams score I ever bought. It revealed to me that he put as much care and craftsmanship into the smaller projects as he did the big ones. I have the original LP and was really happy when Intrada released it on CD.
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Well, considering Williams only wrote the love theme to "Yes, Giorgio" (which, as usual, is a lovely theme), you can hardly lay any blame for the score for that movie on Johnny.
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The score on its own is one of my favorites. The "Gloria" is indeed a glorious piece of music, and in the film, it was a magnificent blending of diegetic music and non-diegetic dramatic underscore. Great scene, the best in the movie.
I can understand why Intrada released the original LP presentation, as the album is wonderfully produced and has geat musical flow.
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The score on its own is one of my favorites. The "Gloria" is indeed a glorious piece of music, and in the film, it was a magnificent blending of diegetic music and non-diegetic dramatic underscore. Great scene, the best in the movie.
I can understand why Intrada released the original LP presentation, as the album is wonderfully produced and has geat musical flow.
I agree about the Gloria, best scene in the movie (which I in general was not very fond of, though didn't think it was as bad as most people did). The use of music only with no dialogue was a great idea, and Williams perfectly captures the tension of the scene and generates some genuine suspense. I am a big fan of this score, and would easily buy a CD of the film tracks if someone were to release them.
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The score on its own is one of my favorites. The "Gloria" is indeed a glorious piece of music, and in the film, it was a magnificent blending of diegetic music and non-diegetic dramatic underscore. Great scene, the best in the movie.
I can understand why Intrada released the original LP presentation, as the album is wonderfully produced and has geat musical flow.
I agree about the Gloria, best scene in the movie (which I in general was not very fond of, though didn't think it was as bad as most people did).
Yes, that's how I remember the movie.. wasn't that bad, though I don't remember all that much about it. I also read the book on which the movie was based roughly at that time, too. I DO remember that "Gloria" scene though, that was good movie making.
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I am a big fan of this score, and would easily buy a CD of the film tracks if someone were to release them.
I always assumed it was assembled from the session tracks? Did not know they are a re-recording?
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Jan 18, 2017 - 11:49 AM
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governor
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The score on its own is one of my favorites. The "Gloria" is indeed a glorious piece of music, and in the film, it was a magnificent blending of diegetic music and non-diegetic dramatic underscore. Great scene, the best in the movie.
I can understand why Intrada released the original LP presentation, as the album is wonderfully produced and has geat musical flow.
I agree about the Gloria, best scene in the movie (which I in general was not very fond of, though didn't think it was as bad as most people did). The use of music only with no dialogue was a great idea, and Williams perfectly captures the tension of the scene and generates some genuine suspense. I am a big fan of this score, and would easily buy a CD of the film tracks if someone were to release them.
I have to disagree about the Gloria Scene. Without question a tremendous piece of music on its own.
As far the scene itself is concerned, I find it overscored and misplaced.
Musically speaking the rest of the score is beautiful and is a strong asset to this Frank Perry underrated film (with the exception of the gloria scene).
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The score is very good.
I love the main theme but I'm not so keen on the Gloria like many.
The film is almost unwatchable.
I've seen it twice with struggle.
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My mistake, I thought I remembered reading somewhere the LP was a different recording. Maybe it was just Doug or Roger at Intrada saying that they only had access to the LP master, and not the original session recordings... Either way, a fine score (and being a Williams completist, I would re-buy if there was unreleased music to be had).
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