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 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Scotty Boy   (Member)

Although not precisely soundtrack related (unless you count the film Amadeus), I found this article interesting. Although the numbers are obviously skewed due to the number of CDs in the set, it's nonetheless reassuring that classical music can still do well in today's marketplace. I may have to consider getting this collection myself at some point.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/giant-mozart-225-box-set-is-2016s-biggest-selling-cd-release/ar-AAlbRnP?OCID=ansmsnnews11

https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-225-New-Complete-200/dp/B01FW8XWSG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481111818&sr=8-1&keywords=Mozart+225%3A+The+New+Complete+Edition

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Great set, it's from UMG, so it's Deutsche Grammophon/Philips/Decca & not a duff recording there. There are some great classical box set bargains for sale. Just think of the amazing soundtrack albums box set that UMG could put out...but it won't happenfrown

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

There is still hope for mankind.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Andrew12   (Member)

That's definitely good news for us classic music lovers! Classic music is on his way back to the top. big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

....Although the numbers are obviously skewed due to the number of CDs in the set, it's nonetheless reassuring that classical music can still do well in today's marketplace.

I'm all for this doing well, but want to reiterate what Scotty said above. Assuming they really are counting every individual CD in the set (there are 200), then 6,250 sets have sold in the past five weeks.

"Mozart 225: The New Complete Edition has shifted 1.25 million total CDs in the five weeks since its Oct. 28 release, according to Universal Music Group. The collection is formidable in every sense. It comprises a whopping 200 CDs, presenting every work by the classical great...."

So this is one of this headlines that obscures rather than clarifies the story. But it certainly does show that there is a healthy niche market for these massive Classical sets, which have been coming out for years now, which itself was proof that it works.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

One might suspect this of being aimed at music faculties where a one-off set of references is needed. Many of these CDs will not be heard.

Great for the true music lover, but for the OCD collector, the perverse pleasure of collecting is removed.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2016 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Good point about music faculties. But Arkiv Music promotes these complete sets to individual consumers frequently, including weekend sales (I get all their email communications).

Though I should note that many times the complete sets are of an artist's complete recordings on a label. Here's a representative sampling.

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/listPage.jsp?list_id=4664&page_size=100

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Scotty Boy   (Member)

Assuming they really are counting every individual CD in the set (there are 200), then 6,250 sets have sold in the past five weeks.

Can you imagine how happy the folks at La La Land (or Intrada, Varese or the other labels) would be if their big sets (i.e. "Star Trek: The Original Series" or "Lost in Space") sold those kinds of numbers in just five weeks?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

And this is for something that costs over $400.

That said, 1.25 million "CDs sold" but how many 10s of thousands will never even be pulled out of their sleeve, much less listened to?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

And this is for something that costs over $400.

It would be $4000 at soundtrack CD prices.

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Following up on Scotty Boy's post comparing the Classical sales niche to the score sales niche, I thought it would be interesting to find a couple of articles about Classical sales. The most recent I can find are from 2014.

https://www.marketplace.org/2015/05/14/business/classical-music-sales-enter-survival-mode
"Classical music sales have been struggling for years now. They make up just 1.4 percent of music consumption, compared to 29 percent for rock, according to a Nielsen survey last year."

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/01/classical_music_sales_decline_is_classical_on_death_s_door.html
"In 2013, total classical album sales actually rose by 5 percent, according to Nielsen. But that's hardly a robust recovery from the 21 percent decline the previous year. And consider the relative standing of classical music. Just 2.8 percent of albums sold in 2013 were categorized as classical. By comparison, rock took 35 percent; R&B 18 percent; soundtracks 4 percent. Only jazz, at 2.3 percent, is more incidental to the business of American music."

You'll notice this says "soundtracks 4 percent" - but we need to keep in mind that doesn't count the kind of score that we mostly focus on around these parts, especially not older scores or collections. Big song albums and almost exclusively new movies is what that's about.

I just point these out to show that even Classical is a very small niche, whereas the archival score community niche is maybe a couple of magnitudes smaller. That's just the way it is.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

This can be had at much better prices than Amazon third-party sellers - why Amazon isn't carrying this themselves is anyone's guess. Barnes and Noble for under 350, which is under two bucks a CD.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/mozart-225-the-new-complete-edition/30033732/2675359196957?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+Media_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP4767

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Ubik   (Member)

Classical music sales have been struggling for years now. They make up just 1.4 percent of music consumption, compared to 29 percent for rock, according to a Nielsen survey last year."

This is tremendously sad to hear, especially since I recently read that American orchestras are only surviving these days through philanthropy.

One tiny ray of hope is that a few personalities (like Gustavo Dudamel) do occasionally break out into public consciousness. But those people are few, and I fear that this incredible musical legacy is going to one day disappear.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2016 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

This can be had at much better prices than Amazon third-party sellers - why Amazon isn't carrying this themselves is anyone's guess.

They sold out, one assumes.

 
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