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 Posted:   Nov 19, 2016 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

The sounds as well as the visuals and everything else is what makes any film or tv series what it is. The dated aspect is as much a part of the appeal as anything else. The look and sound of The Bride of Frankenstein, The Wizard of Oz, the Laurel and Hardy films and Forbidden Planet ( with it's dated electronics) are wonderful. And they've all dated! I cannot think of a single film in the last ten years that are better than the above, and part of their appeal is the ever so dated music.

As a Doctor Who fan, the dated electronics in the original black and white series often still outshine the latest Murray Gold extravaganza. And I say that as a massive fan of the guy's amazing music for the show.

In other words, as others are saying, dated is good.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2016 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Indeed, as many of you have said before, I think of "dated" as simply being able to hang a date on, although it's usually perceieved with negative connotations through use.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2016 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Anything feels dated (whether it's a certain synthesizer sound, a paisley tie, or a singing Big Mouth Bass that you put on your wall) when time leaves it behind. Many scores realized electronically used sounds that seemed fresh at the time but sound thin now.

They don't have to, of course, and it's all a matter of personal taste. But it's really no different from the close harmony used in songs from the '60s, or the often very literal use of "Rule, Britannia!" or "La Marseillaise" in scores from the '30s to signify location changes -- techniques that have fallen out of favor, which peg the music as being of a specific time. Of course, tastes continue to change, and what was dated last year could be hip and retro next year. (Is affection for 8-bit music waning yet? If not, could it please?)


Hey steady on Schiffy !
I still wear Paisley Ties and have a 'Big Mouth Billy Bass' nailed to the wall !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmjOkeS9Azo

Leo (nerd)

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2016 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   mastersofuniverse   (Member)

One track that i've found that amazes each time is Tangerine Dream Love on a real train.

It was made in 1983 yet it still sounds fresh.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2016 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This one gives me goosebumps every time. Stupendous.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2016 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

My question is regarding predominantly synthesizer or electronic sounding scores.

What in your opinion makes a synthesizer score sound dated?

Is it a particular type of sound closely associated with a specific year or the over use of a specific type of sound?

I ask this question because a lot of the time, you always hear the response from (typically, snobby anti electronic types) that a synthesized score will sound dated no matter what.


Mostly it puts a time stamp on the film. Equipment and the sounds they produce changes rapidly.
What sounded innovative years ago is old news today.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2016 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


But for me, this is a non-existant problem. I LOVE the organic, retro synths and I'm glad we're living in a time where these instruments (or approximations of them) are revived in contemporary settings. Dated is good!

But I also love the more 'timeless' electronic score (70s Tangerine Dream, most Vangelis etc.).


Agreed, it's a non-issue for me either. I mean, either the music is good and I like it, or it isn't. There was some cool 80s electronic stuff released that still sounds mighty cool.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2016 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Mostly it puts a time stamp on the film. Equipment and the sounds they produce changes rapidly. What sounded innovative years ago is old news today.

Not always for the better, hence the analog revival circa the late 1990s/early 2000s.

What is old is new again, as they say, which has yielded a pair of great original records by John Carpenter, and a string of excellent albums by the heavily Goblin/Tangerine Dream-influenced duo Zombi.

And we also get great new electronic scores like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0mpJoCl_k4

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2016 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Mostly it puts a time stamp on the film. Equipment and the sounds they produce changes rapidly. What sounded innovative years ago is old news today.

Not always for the better, hence the analog revival circa the late 1990s/early 2000s.

What is old is new again, as they say, which has yielded a pair of great original records by John Carpenter, and a string of excellent albums by the heavily Goblin/Tangerine Dream-influenced duo Zombi.

And we also get great new electronic scores like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0mpJoCl_k4


Agreed...utterly sublime score !

 
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