I think I can understand what Bespin is meaning. I have for instance a John Williams score paired together with a Lionel Newman one, a Neal Hefti one paired with a Quincy Jones album, etc, etc. Like others mentioned it, I tend to chose which composer is the most important according to my taste but this situation is not ideal. This problem also occurs with boxes. I can think for instance of two of them: a Fonit Cetra release containing one CD by Morricone, one by Ortolani and one by Piovani and another one dedicated to Italian thrillers featuring scores by Nicolai, Cipriani and the De Angelis brothers. It's a real dilemma when it comes to determine where to place such items. This said, I don't like 28' or 30' albums, so I'm not against the combination of two LP's.
The thing about placing the CD in our shelves was only an image I used. It's not really an issue.
My discographic concern is really when a previously unreleased album is released for the first time, but on a "2 on 1" CD. I grudgingly came to the conclusion that we have to count this CD in the (solo) "Albums" category of an artist.... despite the fact it's paired whit another artist.
For example, when I count that John Williams issued 140 solo albums so far (140, not bad!) I've included the 2005 "Jericho/The Ghostbreaker [Original Television Soundtrack]" CD.
What I would obviously have preferred, is that "Ghostbreaker" was released alone. So it would have been obvious that it's a John Williams album containing a previously unreleased score.... But...eh.... they paired it with another artist... that's life...
Another point, is that, this sort of "2 on 1" CD has always a little chance to be reissued "exactly" with the same pairing.
In the John Williams discography, we saw this happened with "Checkmate". It was first reissued in 2006 paired with John Williams' "Rhythm in Motion" (good pairing!). Then it was reissued in 2015 on another label paired with Lionel Newman's "Hong Kong" (huh?).
In the John Williams discography, we saw this happened with "Checkmate". It was first reissued in 2006 paired with John Williams' "Rhythm in Motion" (good pairing!). Then it was reissued in 2015 on another label paired with Lionel Newman's "Hong Kong" (huh?).
For me, that's just not an ideal situation.
Personally I think the second choice is better. Rhythm in Motion isn't even film/TV music at all, and the music isn't by Williams. Checkmate and Hong Kong are both TV series with a similar vibe so it makes total sense to pair them together like that.
What I would obviously have preferred, is that "Ghostbreaker" was released alone. So it would have been obvious that it's a John Williams album containing a previously unreleased score.... But...eh.... they paired it with another artist... that's life...
How is it not obvious that it's a John Williams album containing a previously unreleased score? That's... what it is.
I wonder how Bespin feels about the fact I have my Williams-composed classical discs separate from his film score discs....and ones where he's just a conductor without being all his own music isn't even in any sort of Williams section.
I wonder how Bespin feels about the fact I have my Williams-composed classical discs separate from his film score discs.
I'll go you one better: I have film score albums arranged aesthetically. So a groovy 70s score by a composer would be in a completely different section than an orchestral score. A jazz score by the same composer would be in third location. There are certain artists who may appear in five or six different physical locations in my collection.
I chuck mine in a box. And then hunt for what i want. That way i dont give two hoots about twinned CDs or any order whatsoever. Living dangerously is my middle name.
I chuck mine in a box. And then hunt for what i want. That way i dont give two hoots about twinned CDs or any order whatsoever. Living dangerously is my middle name.
Heh!
The only thing stopping me from ordering "Day of the Locust" is that I'll need one copy to file under John Barry, another for Louis Armstrong, another for Paul Jabara....
How awful for you, TG. I deeply sympathise with your quandarry. And of course if you were to buy three copies and on the shelf they somehow all faced north north east and got too close to the lithium crystals during the full moon we could end up with a weird time-continium china syndrome meltdown causing a plague of locusts from the depths of hell, radiation leakage and consequently throwing earth of its natural axis. Best you dont buy it. Thank heavens for ocd collectors like yourself recognising the danger they could put us in and, ergo, keeping us all safe eh? Phew. Thank you TG - a lucky escape for mankind.
In the John Williams discography, we saw this happen with "Checkmate". It was first reissued in 2006 paired with John Williams' "Rhythm in Motion" (good pairing!). Then it was reissued in 2015 on another label paired with Lionel Newman's "Hong Kong" (huh?).
For me, that's just not an ideal situation.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personally I think the second choice is better. Rhythm in Motion isn't even film/TV music at all, and the music isn't by Williams. Checkmate and Hong Kong are both TV series with a similar vibe so it makes total sense to pair them together like that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Hong Kong" was originally an ABC-Paramount Records LP while "Checkmate" was a Columbia LP. FSM paired "Checkmate" with "Rhythm in Motion" because it was another Columbia album with a John Williams connection (as conductor) and it was legally available. The Jazz In the Movies label paired "Checkmate" with "Hong Kong" because when you are issuing Columbia and ABC LPs without authorization from either Sony or UMG, on a "50-year-rule" copyright release, you can do any damn thing you want.
C'mon people! As I said before, it's a sad day when us film music nerds can't actually proclaim our weirdness and fetishes on a film music message board! We do enough covering-up in real life.
and it is an even sadder day when we can't spew our snarky, sardonic, misanthropic venom!
