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This probably isn't the best place to bring this up, but why is it exactly that film score fans hate music that was edited in post? And why do we never want a release like this? Because when we have gotten releases like that (such as the TPM UE, pictured above), they sound terrible. Post-production edits are done to last-minute changes in the film, and are rarely if ever musical. They may work in a film where they are just one part of a larger sound mix, so the clunkier cuts and edits can be covered up, but when laid bare, yuck.
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I was hoping somebody would get it, but I'm guessing the audiences are too divergent for that. I got it and thought it was funny
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Oct 27, 2016 - 7:47 AM
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panavision
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They should do a full 2 disc set with the exact score as played in the movies, full and unedited. For anyone interested, In Part 2 when Foley is talking on the phone in Billy's flat, there is a funky theme that's played for about a minute. You can actually hear a much full and longer version of this score for part 2 in the background very faintly in one of the behind the scenes videos on the dvd, so someone obviously has all the music in its full format ready to release even way back then. Unfortunately you can't extract the music easily as the cast is talking over it, but maybe someone else can try and do it. Also, It beggars belief why a Synthesized score is such a pain in the ass to licence. I could understand if it was an orchestra and so forth, but for a Synthesizer score done by literally 1 guy, surely thiscould have been sorted without any issues way back. It seems like Paramount likes to piss people off by holding classic unreleased music to ransom for some unknown reason. The same with Universal who have Fletch. I don't think Paramount or Universal are trying to piss fans off, it's more than likely a licensing issue with MCA or whoever released the original, plus lawyers are required to go through historic paperwork and all that costs money - and will the studio gain anything from it in terms of profits? Appeasing 3000 fans of the score is not high on their list of priorities, I guess. Thanks to LaLa Land for persevering. The thing with this is that there is no big massive orchestra to deal with or anything like that. It's basically one person and his engineers, Harold Faltermeyer, Keith Forsey etc so there shouldn't be a holdup. Paramount have done the same with Top Gun. They re released the songs soundtrack (which is incomplete by the way) multiple times but never the actual score tracks which is not good enough really. Most people prefer the opening theme without the guitar, and thats only been available in recent years as a bootleg. Is it going to cost them anything to release the music? They basically own it all, what with the composer giving up the material as soon as its made. It doesn't make sense really. The same thing has happened with Jan Hammer who basically had to rerecord his own music for the 2 disc complete collection (for 1 disc). You could probably fill a 10 cd set with all the cues from Miami Vice from Jan Hammer. I even recall Tim Truman giving up also when he was trying to get his season 5 miami vice music released. I mean, just put them all in a box set CD package or at least download only in lossless. Surely it can't be that expensive to release?! I've seen terrible orchestral scores be released over the years when their movie weren't even that successfull, so the mind is truly boggled when this stuff happens. Ah well. What can you do?! Studios are juggernauts, there has to be an appetite from the people in charge to make these things happen. Licensing is a complex issue, it's rarely simple. What was in the original contract? How much does Harold get paid? Things like that. They might own the music, but it doesn't mean they can release it without due process. LaLaLand have probably tried to do it for a few years now, so there must have been something in the way top stop them doing it sooner. It might have required multiple clearances from a number of people.
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For BHCI, three score tracks have been released over the years - Axel F., Shootout and Discovery. How much more score is there in the film? "Shootout" and "Discovery" were released on LP, but they are different from the versions heard in the film. "Axel F" (including its extended version) is not a cue from the film, it's an arrangement exclusive to the album. I haven't counted, but I'd say we're missing close to an hour of original score, not including possible alternates, different mixes, demos, etc. The entire underscore for the showdown at Victor Maitland's mansion remains unreleased, for example.
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Harold Faltermeyer is saying that these two scores are coming this fall. Source, please ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oLWxhwidgw Does anyone have the timestamp of where Faltermeyer says that? It starts at 22:48.
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Thank you. Great news to hear! Surprised that more people aren't talking about this topic I for one am looking forward to more material released from BHCII apart from the "Bad Guys" song
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Well, I'm very excited about it, but I'll believe it when I see it. Wouldn`t you say that the one track on the existing album is more than enough?
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The Cool thing is that director Tony Scott temptracked the Heist at the beginning of BHC2 with "The Duke Arrives" from Escape from New York, and take alisten to that theme and Bad Guys
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My understanding from the Faltermeyer interview was that all 3 scores are coming this fall. The question is whether this will be a 3 or a 4 disc set. Faltermeyer was not involved with no. 3, so I'm not sure how he would know. I can imagine that he was informed by LLL about the project and that he probably was interviewed for the booklet text.
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