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Oct 25, 2016 - 8:53 PM
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RoryR
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Wouldn't Fox have cut the negative before a film opened and not the preview print?(unless they wanted to screen the preview print with cuts to reduce additional print costs) which would mean the preview print, though faded to pink, would contain the longer cuts of the films, if the preview print could even be located? Wasn't the longer version of "South Pacific" found this way?
There wasn't a preview print of CLEOPATRA that was longer than the Roadshow version. There was originally enough footage for something like two three-hour movies, as the director wanted to do, but Zanuck said it had to be one four-hour movie. So, that six-hour, two-part CLEOPATRA movie never got edited, never got put together, never got scored. It never was.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned On A Clear Day You Can See Forever yet. Originally intended as a 3 hour roadshow, Paramount had Minnelli cut nearly an hour from it including 4 songs! Does the footage still exist? I don't know but Streisand fans, Minnelli fans and musical fans would all love to see it reassembled if possible.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned On A Clear Day You Can See Forever yet. Originally intended as a 3 hour roadshow, Paramount had Minnelli cut nearly an hour from it including 4 songs! Does the footage still exist? I don't know but Streisand fans, Minnelli fans and musical fans would all love to see it reassembled if possible.
Actually it was more like 2 1/2 hours. Originally intended as a roadshow with Overture and intermission, which was scrapped just before release. I'm not sure if Minnelli actually authorized the cuts. A good overview of the cut sequences can be found here:
http://barbra-archives.com/films/clear_day_streisand_1.html
Thanks for the link, Joe. Interesting stuff!
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Just for fun, I'd love to see the "Cleopatra" footage shot in London with Taylor and Finch and Boyd.
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Nov 3, 2016 - 9:48 AM
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SoundScope
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It's all of interest and certainly more than a little value as far as film studies and evaluation.
I've always felt that it was quite a shame that all that effort (physical, emotional, writing, design, craftsmanship etc.) was used and the end product was just scrapped. What a tremendous waste, really.
The sad point of it is that it is our generation (baby boomers) that seem to have the biggest interest in all of this stuff, and the new generation, the one in power, hardly knows this stuff exists, of if they do, have no idea of its potential value. Then again. . .
. . .On a Clear Day You Can See Forever.
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I would love to see the uncut version of Robert Fuest's "Wuthering Heights" (1970). It and "De Sade" were planned by AIP as prestige roadshow films -- but in the wake of the "De Sade" disappointment, the studio forced Fuest to drastically shorten the film's running time. He'd apparently already completed a final edit of the longer version. "Wuthering Heights" had gorgeous leads, beautiful photography, and was an intelligent adaptation -- it is a shame that we cannot experience Fuest's original vision of the film.
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Rameau:
'But you never know what they're working on, One-Eyed Jacks came as a pleasant surprise.'
Interested in your reply, because, I personally contacted Paramount asking permission to help them restore Brando's desired longer version. The suits said this was an admirable suggestion, but Brando is the one to contact. Would love to see that one...
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