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That all doesn't sound too good  Seems if the Bond titles are particularly hard to crack.
I still wonder about the Barry estate's reluctance to work with labels. Have they been approached since John Barry's death? Can they be impressed by $$$$?
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Poor Woolston.....
no matter how many times he answers this he KEEPS GETTING PULLED BACK IN!!!!
lol!
BRM
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That all doesn't sound too good Seems if the Bond titles are particularly hard to crack.
I still wonder about the Barry estate's reluctance to work with labels. Have they been approached since John Barry's death? Can they be impressed by $$$$?
$$$$ is good motivation. But it's Barry, not Goldsmith or Williams! So it could happen that LLL/Intrada/anyone else may spend more money to estate, than they can get back from their customers! First Love was released 3 years ago. 2000 copies - still in-print. Plus don't forget that they also need to pay for studio/AFM (if it was recorded at US)/manufacturing...
Don't assume the fact that First Love is still in print means a major James Bond film score has no merit for a release. Look around at what's getting released. Is everything else that's coming out commercially viable but a James Bond film score not? It has more commercial merit than, say, Jagged Edge, Hanover Street or Peggy Sue Got Married, all of which got released and sold out very quickly. No, they're two totally different propositions. James Bond fans would want this, not just John Barry and not even just soundtrack fans.
There would be no AFM fees as it was not recorded in the US.
The problem here is not cost of production, at least not within reasonable parameters. (I'm sure if you waved a billion dollars, people would shift their positions.) It may be licensing, possessiveness and/or simply disinterest from those who would have to cooperate.
And although "the tapes are lost" is a misquote and "the tapes were dumped" was apocryphal, conversely, locating tapes could nevertheless still be an issue. Who knows what happened to them since being sighted in 1999?
Cheers
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Okay, I am one to believe that the tapes are still in existence. However, what if the tapes are the ones that Lewis Gilbert had processed through Dolby stereo and compressed the sound that John Barry once said, "Gilbert's ears must have been out to lunch when he did the final mix"?
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Okay, I am one to believe that the tapes are still in existence. However, what if the tapes are the ones that Lewis Gilbert had processed through Dolby stereo and compressed the sound that John Barry once said, "Gilbert's ears must have been out to lunch when he did the final mix"?
That was the film mix not the session masters. Barry was in attendance at the recording and would have played back the session masters and ensured they were to his satisfaction. The mix Barry had disdain for was the film mix prepared in England with him absent.
Cheers
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Who knows what happened to them since being sighted in 1999?
Have no fear.
Do you know something?
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Who knows what happened to them since being sighted in 1999?
Have no fear.
Do you know something?
Yes, but nothing I can discuss on a public forum.
If I had a pound for every time I heard that ... ;-)
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My uneducated guess still is that any existing (and easily accessible) music-only masters have been pulled for the UE up-mixes. Even if the latest original 5.1 home video version is based on nothing than the original mix, MGM still would have needed a new 5.1 m&e track for international distribution and I find it hard to imagine that the (existent) music-only masters would not have been used at one point or another.
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Well, in fairness, Mr. Jameson could be on the level. If I truly knew the Moonraker tapes were safe but couldn't say, I think I'd at least say, "Look, I can't say what, but don't worry."
The trouble is it's just as easy for bullshit artists to say the same for attention or to be mischievous or whatever.
So, Jameson, forgive me but please understand it is hard to tell when someone claims on an internet forum to possess secret knowledge, it's hard to know whether they really do or not.
I remember a time we were discussing the lost score from Mister Moses. A guy piped up and claimed he had a copy of the original 1965 recording sessions. I called bull on him. He insisted. Eventually, to prove it, he offered to send me a one minute mp3 sampler. He did. You know what I receieved? The first minute of the Nic Raine conducted suite from one of the early John Barry compilation re-recordings of Silva Screen.
But anyway, if you do indeed know the Moonraker tapes are safe, thanks for letting us know.
Cheers
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I remember a time we were discussing the lost score from Mister Moses. A guy piped up and claimed he had a copy of the original 1965 recording sessions. I called bull on him. He insisted. Eventually, to prove it, he offered to send me a one minute mp3 sampler. He did. You know what I receieved? The first minute of the Nic Raine conducted suite from one of the early John Barry compilation re-recordings of Silva Screen.Cheers
That's funny. Although wasn't there some sort of recording of the original around, that Nic Raine listened to so he could transcribe from?
I've never heard of that. I only know that UA had already prepared an album master for a soundtrack LP - which unfortunately never was released.
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I remember a time we were discussing the lost score from Mister Moses. A guy piped up and claimed he had a copy of the original 1965 recording sessions. I called bull on him. He insisted. Eventually, to prove it, he offered to send me a one minute mp3 sampler. He did. You know what I receieved? The first minute of the Nic Raine conducted suite from one of the early John Barry compilation re-recordings of Silva Screen.Cheers
That's funny. Although wasn't there some sort of recording of the original around, that Nic Raine listened to so he could transcribe from?
Nope. He used a cassette taken from a VHS tape of the movie, I believe. And since a lot of the music is quiet and under dialogue and sound effects, it must have been very difficult to figure it out.
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I remember a time we were discussing the lost score from Mister Moses. A guy piped up and claimed he had a copy of the original 1965 recording sessions. I called bull on him. He insisted. Eventually, to prove it, he offered to send me a one minute mp3 sampler. He did. You know what I receieved? The first minute of the Nic Raine conducted suite from one of the early John Barry compilation re-recordings of Silva Screen.Cheers
That's funny. Although wasn't there some sort of recording of the original around, that Nic Raine listened to so he could transcribe from?
Nope. He used a cassette taken from a VHS tape of the movie, I believe. And since a lot of the music is quiet and under dialogue and sound effects, it must have been very difficult to figure it out.
Since this movie is still MIA on DVD and Blu-Ray, maybe Twilight could do the job - adding the m&e track (if still extant)...
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I would prefer an expanded 'Spy who loved me' myself
Actually, so do I !
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Since this movie is still MIA on DVD and Blu-Ray, maybe Twilight could do the job - adding the m&e track (if still extant)...
Well, if an M&E track exists, that would certainly be a most welcome thing.
Cheers
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