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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Milan NS   (Member)

Ouch! Looks like the french dude is no Jonathan Ross...

http://next.liberation.fr/musique/2016/09/19/ennio-morricone-maestro-furioso_1502956

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't get it. What does 'vaffanculo' mean, and what is this about?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

I don't get it. What does 'vaffanculo' mean, and what is this about?

It means F**k You.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Could a french speaker give us a rough idea of the story?

Presumably Morricone got ratty with a journo for asking - in his mind - stupid questions?
This is not uncommon and has happened previously.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

Could a french speaker give us a rough idea of the story?

Presumably Morricone got ratty with a journo for asking - in his mind - stupid questions?
This is not uncommon and has happened previously.


Google trad:

...The maestro will end by almost cum just outside the journalist. When a question dares a private hair, about his relationship with Rome, maestro sees red. "But ... it's a question of tourist! You represent a serious newspaper. You did not come here to hear me talk of Rome! "

The most prolific composer of the twentieth century - more than 500 film scores to his credit - has always done things with style. Whatsoever when it comes to revolutionize the world of the soundtrack, or at the time of closing an interview, asking the reporter to go to hell, "When one then rises and we closed our notebook, is heard to say: 'Vaffanculo!' Finally a surprising thought. "

Ennio Morricone will perform at the Palace of Congress in Paris on 24 and 25 September."

http://www.lesinrocks.com/2016/09/20/musique/vaffanculo-a-87-ans-ennio-morricone-reste-le-plus-enerve-des-maestros-11865617/

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:23 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

"The maestro will end by almost cum just outside the journalist."

Thanks, Google, for a job well done. Not.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

I'm not at all saying the Maestro was right to do so but those interviews are endless for a man of his age. And I guess he sometimes loses his temper. A friend of mine visited him last year to ask questions about the score of EN MAI, FAIS CE QU'IL TE PLAIT and believe it or not, the whole day was filled with meetings with journalists, most of them to promote the tour! At the end, Morricone was totally exhausted and simply wanted to go to bed!
On Sunday I will attend the 2d Parisian concert. Let's hope EM will be fine.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"The maestro will end by almost cum just outside the journalist."

Thanks, Google, for a job well done. Not.


LOL!

I'm not sure I'm any wiser, though. That Google Translate was terrible, and my French is rusty.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

"The maestro will end by almost cum just outside the journalist."

Thanks, Google, for a job well done. Not.


LOL!

I'm not sure I'm any wiser, though. That Google Translate was terrible, and my French is rusty.




OOPS!!!!
Shame on me , shame on Google trad.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   tyuan   (Member)

the correct meaning is "f*** off".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   CédricD   (Member)

When I met Morricone many, many years ago, he was already an asshole, rude and unpleasant. But the fact he said that to Libération is kind of cool because Libération is left-wing crap.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

"Liberation is not free" LOL.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Like most Morricone controversies I have heard about, it all comes down to translation and context. Journalists used to be journalists, now they follow the pattern of tabloids - "headline making". You must concoct a headline that will get the most amount of people to open up that article or it won't be read. Accuracy is secondary, if that. The quote a year or so ago about Tarantino that Ennio made in a music class is a prime example. Tons of people believed that headline and brought it up when Morricone did a score for him, as if it were gospel.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

When I met Morricone many, many years ago, he was already an asshole, rude and unpleasant. But the fact he said that to Libération is kind of cool because Libération is left-wing crap.

You know they say you should never meet your idols. I can't say anything bad about the maestro, but he does seem a bit kind of full of himself at times, which I understand.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   CédricD   (Member)

Like most Morricone controversies I have heard about, it all comes down to translation and context. Journalists used to be journalists, now they follow the pattern of tabloids - "headline making". You must concoct a headline that will get the most amount of people to open up that article or it won't be read. Accuracy is secondary, if that. The quote a year or so ago about Tarantino that Ennio made in a music class is a prime example. Tons of people believed that headline and brought it up when Morricone did a score for him, as if it were gospel.

In this case it has nothing to do with context and translation. He just said "fuck you" to a journalist who asked legitimate questions, not dumb ones, all journalists interviewing him have the obligation to call him "Maestro"... Goldsmith was sometimes grumpy, but he would never had done that. Barry was absolutely charming, so is Williams. It's not because you're a genius that you also have to be an asshole.

When I met Morricone, Delerue was here and they did a master class. Delerue said that he was helped by some orchestrator to finish his score on time for some film (Platoon if I emember correctly), then Morricone interrupted him and said : "Composers who work with orchestrators are not real composers"...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Like most Morricone controversies I have heard about, it all comes down to translation and context. Journalists used to be journalists, now they follow the pattern of tabloids - "headline making". You must concoct a headline that will get the most amount of people to open up that article or it won't be read. Accuracy is secondary, if that. The quote a year or so ago about Tarantino that Ennio made in a music class is a prime example. Tons of people believed that headline and brought it up when Morricone did a score for him, as if it were gospel.

In this case it has nothing to do with context and translation. He just said "fuck you" to a journalist who asked legitimate questions, not dumb ones, all journalists interviewing him have the obligation to call him "Maestro"... Goldsmith was sometimes grumpy, but he would never had done that. Barry was absolutely charming, so is Williams. It's not because you're a genius that you also have to be an asshole.

When I met Morricone, Delerue was here and they did a master class. Delerue said that he was helped by some orchestrator to finish his score on time for some film (Platoon if I emember correctly), then Morricone interrupted him and said : "Composers who work with orchestrators are not real composers"...


Delerue ? Working with an orchestrator ? Are you kidding ?

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

The reason i asked if a french speaker could give us a paragraph with the salient points of the piece was for the very reason of what happens with those internet translations - it is invariably laughable gobbledegook, and as Thor says, leaves you none the wiser afterwards.
Reminds me of those awful liner notes on the old italian western CDs explaining the plot of the film. Insane claptrap.


 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

"The maestro will end by almost cum just outside the journalist."
.


"...Yes, on no account during the interview must you ask the maestro about his porn films...!!"

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Like most Morricone controversies I have heard about, it all comes down to translation and context. Journalists used to be journalists, now they follow the pattern of tabloids - "headline making". You must concoct a headline that will get the most amount of people to open up that article or it won't be read. Accuracy is secondary, if that. The quote a year or so ago about Tarantino that Ennio made in a music class is a prime example. Tons of people believed that headline and brought it up when Morricone did a score for him, as if it were gospel.

In this case it has nothing to do with context and translation. He just said "fuck you" to a journalist who asked legitimate questions, not dumb ones, all journalists interviewing him have the obligation to call him "Maestro"... Goldsmith was sometimes grumpy, but he would never had done that. Barry was absolutely charming, so is Williams. It's not because you're a genius that you also have to be an asshole.

When I met Morricone, Delerue was here and they did a master class. Delerue said that he was helped by some orchestrator to finish his score on time for some film (Platoon if I emember correctly), then Morricone interrupted him and said : "Composers who work with orchestrators are not real composers"...


Since Morricone did not say that in English, again, we are relying on your translation and hence wording, let alone total context of HOW he "interrupted" him.

You say he said "fuck you" to a journalist who asked legitimate questions. Assuming you have access to all the questions he asked and have deemed them legitimate, even the bad google translation does say he was "heard" to say fuck you. Not the same thing. And was it as he was leaving? To himself? We are approaching Gobbledegook" time again.

I have never met you and definitely do not know you. But I have known 3 individuals who have called Morricone more or less an asshole. To a man all 3 have certain egocentric self serving qualities that come close to the label they gave him. No one else of the dozens of others who I have met who knew him have come close to that description. I myself have encountered him over a dozen times and the most I can claim about him is a certain aloofness. Considering the vastness and number of musical worlds he has created I expected something more eccentric. He is definitely no Bernard Herrmann (who made some of the same above statements way more vociferously).

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I don't get it. What does 'vaffanculo' mean, and what is this about?

It means, 'F*ck you up the a**'. The Maestro must have been REALLY mad.

 
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