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 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Three members who 'call' themselves Tangerine Dream to make sales. Cute. Edgar's own son, Jerome, won't even support them. No thanks. The closest you'll get to Tangerine Dream is with Jerome and former member Johannes Schmoelling in LOOM.



nice stuff! My fave period of TD was Froese, Franke and Schmoelling. During that period of membership they came out with my favourite albums including Thief, Risky Business, Tangram, Poland (Live), Exit, Firestarter, StreetHawk, the list goes on.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

Sorry, I guess I'll have to represent the minority opinion and say I find this version messy and overstuffed. The original is more clean, concise and clinical, and therefore, much creepier. That said, I'd love to hear John Carpenter take a crack at it...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Three members who 'call' themselves Tangerine Dream to make sales. Cute. Edgar's own son, Jerome, won't even support them. No thanks. The closest you'll get to Tangerine Dream is with Jerome and former member Johannes Schmoelling in LOOM.


nice stuff! My fave period of TD was Froese, Franke and Schmoelling. During that period of membership they came out with my favourite albums including Thief, Risky Business, Tangram, Poland (Live), Exit, Firestarter, StreetHawk, the list goes on.




The Froese, Franke and Schmoelling years are my favorite, too, but 73/74 with Phaedra up through 77 are just as great. Cyclone does not exist for me...well, most of it, anyway.

The new TD lineup apparently continues with the blessing of Froese's widow, and that's fine with me. I rather like the Quantum Key album and am very interested in what's next.

Jerome's work with LOOM is fine ( I think due more to Schmoelling maybe more than anything else ), but his years with TD are among my least favorite. Isn't he the one who led Froese down that HORRIBLE dance beat road that resulted in a ton of albums that all sounded the same? Even after Jerome left ( rumor says on bad terms? ), that sound persisted to a degree, but there were some good TD albums in the later years.

The less Jerome, the better for me big grin

And the Stranger Things cover still sounds fine to me .

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   lars.blondeel   (Member)

Sorry, but without Edgar, there's no valid reason to call it Tangerine Dream anymore. Just call it a day, and release some unreleased music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)


Isn't he the one who led Froese down that HORRIBLE dance beat road that resulted in a ton of albums that all sounded the same? Even after Jerome left ( rumor says on bad terms? ), that sound persisted to a degree, but there were some good TD albums in the later years.

The less Jerome, the better for me big grin

And the Stranger Things cover still sounds fine to me .


Agreed, he was the influence behind their worst era of music but Edgar 'did' manage to spit out intermittent gems over the years, especially on the GTA V soundtrack. I think Jerome has grown quite a bit since those horrendous 'dance' influenced beats...and he's honed his guitar playing pretty well. The cover doesn't sound bad, it's just not TD...and when you have 35 or more years of TD embedded into your brain you notice it immediately. They should just call themselves something else. this cover is a sad and obvious attempt to appeal to the Stranger things frenzy. It's a cash grab.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

Sorry, but without Edgar, there's no valid reason to call it Tangerine Dream anymore. Just call it a day, and release some unreleased music.

Exactly this. The music is there. It's what fans want. No reason not to do it. If Johannes can released unreleased LEGEND, STREET HAWK and THE SOLDIER...no reason not to humor us old school listeners and give us all the rest of that vault gold.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I agree with the general sentiment, and I would like it more if some of the older members re-joined (as previously stated), but except for Edgar, the line-up has been so different over the years, the members are less important than the name. Besides, the TD "sound" has long been established, so I doubt the current or potential new members would suddenly turn it into a psytrance or techno group or whatever.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Yeah, it's a bit weird. Of the three current members, Thorsten Quaeschning is the one that has been with the group the longest, i.e. since 2005. So he, at the very least, knows what TD is about and what Edgar's "sound" is. I remember there were some rumours about some of the former members re-joining TD after Edgar's death -- to at least have some sort of link to the past. Was it Baumann and Schmoelling? But I don't think anything has come of it yet.

It was Baumann. But he quickly found out that the differences were too big. He's from another generation, really.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

TD continues, and I don't really have a problem with that. I can't see them continuing for years, this is more a question of ending it in a proper way. Quaeschning and Schnauss are very talented guys.

I also think Jerome was responsible for some of the freshest sounding TD-tracks in the 90s. Where Edgar's stuff often was meandering and aimless during that decade, Jerome (then in his twenties) contributed with some dynamite melodies, great guitar playing and occasional exciting techno/dance elements.

His relationship with his father was up and down, but they made peace and the last thing they did was FINAL MOVEMENT a few years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KApSeOPux8

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2016 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I agree with the general sentiment, and I would like it more if some of the older members re-joined (as previously stated), but except for Edgar, the line-up has been so different over the years, the members are less important than the name. Besides, the TD "sound" has long been established, so I doubt the current or potential new members would suddenly turn it into a psytrance or techno group or whatever.


The new preview of the upcoming Quantum Gate album is very much in the familiar TD style.


https://soundcloud.com/tangerinedreamofficial2015

Sounds fine to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2016 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)


Isn't he the one who led Froese down that HORRIBLE dance beat road that resulted in a ton of albums that all sounded the same? Even after Jerome left ( rumor says on bad terms? ), that sound persisted to a degree, but there were some good TD albums in the later years.

The less Jerome, the better for me big grin

And the Stranger Things cover still sounds fine to me .


Agreed, he was the influence behind their worst era of music but Edgar 'did' manage to spit out intermittent gems over the years, especially on the GTA V soundtrack. I think Jerome has grown quite a bit since those horrendous 'dance' influenced beats...and he's honed his guitar playing pretty well. The cover doesn't sound bad, it's just not TD...and when you have 35 or more years of TD embedded into your brain you notice it immediately. They should just call themselves something else. this cover is a sad and obvious attempt to appeal to the Stranger things frenzy. It's a cash grab.


Froese did do some wonderful work on the GTA V soundtrack, then got stingy with a short official CD that left off lots of the most interesting music smile . Thank good for YouTube on that one.

And isn't any commercial release a "cash grab"? Everyone in the business is there to make money. I know what you mean, but those two tracks aren't even available for sale. It seems more like a nice nod to the show/composers who continually named dropped them as influences. And yeah, it has generate some fresh buzz for TD, that's not a bad thing.

But I agree 100% with your call for releases of older scores. Froese seemed dead set against it, but a few years ago the official TD site had a poll asking if people would be interested in releases of their unreleased scores. The feedback was "hell yes" , but nothing ever happened after that.

It'd be nice if those scores could be released now. There's so much good stuff missing from the Legend album, and The Soldier, City Of Shadows, The Keep ( although according to LaLa's MV, that'd be when pigs fly ), even things like Red Heat - bring them on. Soon.

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2016 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

It'd be nice if those scores could be released now. There's so much good stuff missing from the Legend album, and The Soldier, City Of Shadows, The Keep ( although according to LaLa's MV, that'd be when pigs fly ), even things like Red Heat - bring them on. Soon.

The end title song from City Of Shadows must be the most commercial thing TD ever did---but I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwvgfm28kL8

The Red Heat end title is also highly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01XxTqPbMw

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2016 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

It'd be nice if those scores could be released now. There's so much good stuff missing from the Legend album, and The Soldier, City Of Shadows, The Keep ( although according to LaLa's MV, that'd be when pigs fly ), even things like Red Heat - bring them on. Soon.

The Red Heat end title is also highly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01XxTqPbMw


Some hidden gems out there for Red Heat fans if they search a bit. A beautiful piece, very listenable (I remastered it for myself) is presented in the trailer:



This has actually been released in it's simple form as LABEO from the Hollywood Years album:

https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Years-Vol-Tangerine-Dream/dp/B00000G6A7/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1475428068&sr=8-2&keywords=tangerine+dream+hollywood

and still, a nice remix of the music from the end of the film where they approach the final gate can be heard in Hall of Mirrors:

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2016 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Yes, and the Red Heat end title is titled Riding The Lizard Overland on the Hollywood Years Volume 2 disc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oahTlUefLg0

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It'd be nice if those scores could be released now. There's so much good stuff missing from the Legend album, and The Soldier, City Of Shadows, The Keep ( although according to LaLa's MV, that'd be when pigs fly ), even things like Red Heat - bring them on. Soon.

The end title song from City Of Shadows must be the most commercial thing TD ever did---but I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwvgfm28kL8


He, he....wow. I wasn't aware they had done anything that 'poppy'. Fascinating find, and yes -- I also find myself liking it, even though it's rather far removed from their trademark sound.

 
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