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Sep 5, 2016 - 11:18 PM
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SchiffyM
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I know that this point has been talked around here, but while I don't think there's any one explanation for the resurgence of vinyl (some legitimately prefer the sound, some like the artwork, some use it as a badge of integrity, and sure, for some it is simply an affectation), I do believe that for listeners of a certain age, they feel they need to connect with something tactile. Music plays on phones, or streams from a device hooked up to your TV, etc., but it's intangible, and often ephemeral. It requires no commitment, it's easily accessed with just a click – it's barely there. A CD exists in three-dimensional space, yes, but it's a cold and mysterious device. An LP goes that next step and produces sound by a physical connection.
All that said, I don't personally miss vinyl. It was always a pain to me, though I loved so many of my LPs at the time. I love CDs, but unlike so many here I would gladly give them up for high quality downloads. But that's just me. I understand why it may be mystifying to some that vinyl would make a resurgence, but I think it's wrong to dismiss the trend as the product of idiot kids, or simple pretentiousness. I honestly do think that music fans looking to connect in a certain way with their music find that going analogue helps them do that. Why denigrate their love for music?
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Sep 5, 2016 - 11:47 PM
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Essankay
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I can understand that some LPs are not available on digital formats and so people buy (or keep) and listen to the vinyl. And I can understand that for some people LPs are genuine nostalgia.
For others, though, it's nostalgia for something they never experienced (a contradiction in terms, frankly), like the hipster dandies who wear bowlers and braces, and who lovingly wax their mustaches. For them, it's a fad, an affectation. I can understand that, too, since I bought and listened to 78rpm records when I was a youngster (and wore double-breasted pin stripe suits I'd dig out of thrift stores).
But... I never tried to convince myself or anyone else that the sound quality on those 78s was superior to LPs. And I certainly never had any desire to listen to Bowie or The Stones or John Barry on 78s. I'd have thought it lunacy had anyone proposed such a thing.
So while soundtrack labels are free to release material in any format they think will sell and are under no obligation to cater to my desires, I'm equally free to have an opinion about it. And the grumpy youngsters (and oldsters) who won't hear any dissent can kiss my rosy red ass!
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Never again.
I like to listen to my music without the sound of bacon frying.
Then, for God Sakes, get your George Foreman Grill off your soundsystem!
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I find it freshly invigorating that, now in my fifties, I'm now classified as a “hipster.”
Hilarious. 
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Oh, I don't "hate" vinyl, and if you want to buy it—no matter your age—more power to you! I'm not going back. I hated the clicks and pops—especially during quiet passages—and was very happy when digital formats eliminated them.
So, again, if vinyl's your thing—go for it. I prefer digital.
Not to mention the dynamic range on LP is far inferior to CD. But if kids want to listen to current music or rock classics where there weren't a lot of changes in dynamics, fine. For classical, jazz or orchestral film scores, CD still reigns supreme sonically
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Sep 17, 2016 - 9:14 AM
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John-73
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I've never understood this 'I don't miss the sound of frying bacon' stereotypical response by some.
Fact is, if one bothers to exercise a little common sense & keep fingers off of the grooves and handle by the edges only, and makes sure the LP is put pack in (preferably) a poly lined sleeve immediately after playing, you won't get that noise! Ditto if you don't cheap out on a shite quality stylus and expect miracles, and ensure you keep that clean which takes seconds.
Second hand records can of course be dodgy, but just look at the playing surfaces - is it clean? Are there scratches? If not don't buy it. Good quality cleaning machines (i.e. Keith Monks, Loricraft Audio, Moth etc) are often installed in vinyl and/or hifi shops, so you can get an LP professionally cleaned for very little.
Many modern LPs can also sound better than CDs, as the CD versions are often dynamically compressed (the loudness wars) to get best results in cars, amd noisy environments. LPs are conversely mastered for high fidelity setups without those (awful) compromises. Good pressings ars a lottery though - best to do your homework first on forums like this one, or Steve Hoffmans site.
Yes LPs need owners who are willing to invest time, care and attention to get the best results, but the sonic rewards are often worth it, particularly with older (all analogue) pressings, made when the masters for each album were new & fresh. That's often why many original LPs can sound better than the remasters. These days there's too many digital tools & plug ins to 'improve' the sound too. Many cannot resist the urge to tinker, often spoiling the sound. Fortunately in my experience most of the popular soundtrack labels really know what they're doing in terms of getting the best results from both CD and LP.
My personal wish for all labels though - NO CD sourced/16-bit masters transferred onto LP please. This really is an almighty con. Higher-res digital files or preferably all analogue to vinyl only please.
I'm hoping labels like Intrada and Mondo etc. will strive to be honest about the exact mastering source of each LP, and the cutting lathes used for the LP masters that the finished products are pressed from (i.e. lathes with a digital delay, or full analogue machines).
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The Planet of the Apes LP from Mondo is exactly what vinyl records should be: the best tapes available for a classic album, plus striking (even spooky, in the case of this particular album) art.
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