I confess I'm not really interested in being sympathetic or conciliatory towards the notion that there are no longer any Hollywood franchises left for men to identify with, because female protagonists have taken them all over. It's at best ridiculous and at worst displays some deep-seated sexism, which I'm certainly not going to accept as a valid point of view.
You make a good point Justin that Hollywood cares primarily about money and profits. However, most of the people in power in Hollywood are white males, so I think that's also a factor in what they're willing to take a chance on. Blade was successful enough all the way back in 1998 to spawn a film trilogy...so why did it take almost 20 more years for there to be another minority-led superhero franchise (Black Panther)?
I guess you could say that female-led superhero films had a history of tanking, before Wonder Woman...but we are talking about absolute dreck like Supergirl and Catwoman, here. Why did some executive decide that those movies probably flopped because they were female-led rather than because they were terrible? (Probably because said executive was not female.) The mindset also matters, in addition to the money.
All I said was out of 13 or so female lead franchises it would be nice to have one male lead series.
His laughable implication is that there is not one.
And his exact words that set this off:
Short answer: You KNOW why its a little girl instead of a little boy.
Long answer:
Disneys Star Wars- Female lead Rouge One- Female lead Star Trek Discovery- Female lead Prometheus (Alien)- Female lead Ghostbusters- All female team Oceans whatever- All female team Terminator whatever- All female leads A Force- All female Avengers team Masters of the Universe- Female lead Captain Marvel- Female (originally male) Thor- Female (originally male) Doctor Who- Female (originally male) 007- Female (originally male)
Why can't we have one action adventure/sci fi/fantasy with a male lead? Especially in a genre usually enjoyed by males? How many girls fantasize about strapping on a jetpack and fighting Nazis?
Solium claimed that all Hollywood franchises were now female-dominated. He acted like he randomly picked 13 examples (many of which were pretty bad examples) and that they were somehow a representational indicator of his premise's veracity.
Well I think my last list was "helpful" in one way at least: proving him utterly incorrect. The reality is that Hollywood and Hollywood franchises are still male dominated. It's just gotten a little bit better over the past few years and the perception on the part of some of my fellow males is that it's appropriate and totally reasonable to throw a fit about no longer dominating the movie landscape.
The larger point is to unravel this wad; it just seems to me that you two could probably find more common ground that going where it's going now. Not something I try to do much ever.
Rant deleted, old guy good old days nonsense. Good luck with whatever your lil hearts desire this might score like...
But it was a good rant and not nonsense. Is classical music old guy good old days nonsense? No, the music is timeless. Glad I read your post before you deleted it.
Aw thanks Solium, glad I slunk back in to see your response. Strictly in regards to music, I've personally given up hope, but admire those who will hear whatever this is scored with and enjoy it. I know EVERY fantasy thing doesnt need to sound like (insert favorite 70s 80s etc fantasy symphonic score) but something besides 6th generation Zimmer drum pounding and boring slashy string writing would be nice. I hear it EVERY where all the time. Depressing business.
