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 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

WEDNESDAY, JULY 27

TIME AFTER TIME---trailer for the ABC remake of the movie that starred Malcolm McDowell, Mary Steenburgen and David Warner.

Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN4C4Ar5BLo



SPLIT---trailer for the M. Night Shyamalan horror movie.

Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMQ9jW2qAw



STAR TREK: DISCOVERY---creator Bryan Fuller said the starship USS Discovery in the CBS All Access series might have a black female captain, “I think that STAR TREK is a show of firsts. And in researching the characters for this new iteration of STAR TREK I’ve been talking to Mae Jemison, who’s the first black woman in space, and who saw STAR TREK in the ‘60s and who saw Nichelle Nichols on the bridge of a ship and said ‘I see myself in space.’
So there’s something wonderful about the legacy that Nichelle Nichols represents as giving a gift to people who weren’t previously able to see themselves in the future. We are going to be continuing that tradition of progressive casting and progressive character work to be an inclusive world.”






THE WALKING DEAD---Jeffrey Dean Morgan, at a panel discussion with Andrew Lincoln, Steven Yeun and Norman Reedus, commented on who he killed in last season's cliffhanger, “No one sitting here.”






THE DIVISION---Jessica Chastain (ZERO DARK THIRTY) is in talks to co-star with Jake Gyllenhaal in this movie based on the Tom Clancy video game about a New York pandemic.

THE CAVES OF STEEL---movie underway based on the Isaac Asimov novel set 3,000 years in the future in which a police detective and his robot partner investigate the murder of a space ambassador. Akiva Goldsman will write the script.

FINAL SCORE---Pierce Brosnan and Dave Bautista will star in this movie about an ex-soldier battling criminals who demand a ransom after taking over a crowded London sports stadium, including the daughter of a dead comrade.

BLADE RUNNER 2---Lennie James (THE WALKING DEAD) has joined the sequel cast.

SUICIDE SQUAD---director David Ayer denied the rumor that The Joker is the adult Robin.

SHARKNADO---writer Thunder Levin commented on the future of the Syfy franchise, “As to whether we will see other creatures in ‘nados in the future, I can’t say for sure. Who knows if there will even be any more Sharknado movies? I guess it depends on the ratings. I have actually developed a story arc for Sharknado five through seven – for the next three movies – and I’ve submitted that to The Asylum and we’ll see if they want to run with it or not and we’ll see if Syfy wants to do anymore of these."

A WRINKLE IN TIME---Oprah Winfrey will star in this movie based on the novel about a girl who seeks her father who disappeared in a time travel experiment.

SANDY WEXLER---Netflix movie underway starring Adam Sandler, Jennifer Hudson, Kevin James and Rob Schneider in which a Los Angeles talent manager falls in love with one of his clients.

TURN: WASHINGTON'S SPIES---AMC said the upcoming Season 4 will be the last season.

PROJECT GREENLIGHT---HBO said Season 4 will be the last season. It will be shopped to other networks.

MARVEL'S AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.---Lilli Birdsell (THE WALKING DEAD: WEBISODES) will have a recurring role as a character named Lucy.

VIKINGS---WWE star Adam Copeland will play Viking warrior Ketill Flatnose who will lead a journey to start a community in Iceland.

47 METERS DOWN---movie underway about two sisters who are trapped in an observation cage 47 meters underwater as they are terrorized by Great White sharks. Mandy Moore and Claire Holt star.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

TIME AFTER TIME
Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN4C4Ar5BLo


Gag me.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

TIME AFTER TIME
Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN4C4Ar5BLo


Gag me.


Ditto...

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

SPLIT does nothing for me, even though I am interested in extreme psychology and generally disposed favourably to Shyamalan projects. Split doesn`t horrify me... doesn`t have any cringe, gulp, or scream moments, at least in that trailer, which as usual is too damn long.

STAR TREK - I hate speech like that. The only good approach to theater is to get the best people for the jobs. Period. Race is going to remain an issue in society for as long as people continue bringing it up. Want to mitigate the role difference plays in society? Stop bringing it up. Move on.

"Why do people always point out our differences?"

"Because people always point to our differences."

To be more Trek specific, black - female - captain. Maybe. Can the person act? Does the person have a stage presence? Is the person intelligent? Is the person command material? The questions should not be: female? black? peculiarly sexually oriented? young? etc. .

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Time After Time looks like it needs decent actors, not a couple of pretty boys just saying words. It looks very poor going off the trailer.

Split looks terrible, too. I just hope McAvoy gets out of it with his dignity intact.

The Ghostbusters trailer was genuinely absolutely awful but i believe the film is okay or even decent. So maybe Split won't be total garbage and Time After Time will be worth watching? Probably not, though.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

STAR TREK - I hate speech like that. The only good approach to theater is to get the best people for the jobs. Period. Race is going to remain an issue in society for as long as people continue bringing it up. Want to mitigate the role difference plays in society? Stop bringing it up. Move on.

"Why do people always point out our differences?"

"Because people always point to our differences."

To be more Trek specific, black - female - captain. Maybe. Can the person act? Does the person have a stage presence? Is the person intelligent? Is the person command material? The questions should not be: female? black? peculiarly sexually oriented? young? etc.


I was going to comment on this but you said it perfectly. Making an "issue" out of it is actually counter productive. Drives me nuts.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Here's a novel idea: how about an alien captain for Star Trek? It's had four human captains making it a very human centric view of a galaxy that is apparently full of aliens...

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Representation is an issue. For people who have no shortage of role models on TV who share their race, gender, sexual preference, it's very easy to say it's only an issue because people keep bringing it up. But people bring it up because it's an issue. Or did you completely miss the point of the story of how seeing Uhura in Star Trek changed that woman's life?

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Representation is an issue. For people who have no shortage of role models on TV who share their race, gender, sexual preference, it's very easy to say it's only an issue because people keep bringing it up. But people bring it up because it's an issue. Or did you completely miss the point of the story of how seeing Uhura in Star Trek changed that woman's life?

But they just did it. They made it normal by not bringing attention to itself. Nowadays everyone gets on their soapbox and makes some declaration which turns ppl off that might otherwise be more open minded.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Representation is an issue. For people who have no shortage of role models on TV who share their race, gender, sexual preference, it's very easy to say it's only an issue because people keep bringing it up. But people bring it up because it's an issue. Or did you completely miss the point of the story of how seeing Uhura in Star Trek changed that woman's life?

Hmmm. Point taken about Uhura debuting in that time, that media. That said...

... I respect Gandhi. Since he was East Indian and I am not, am I then incapable of admiring him? Does my lack of such ethnicity preclude or obviate my capacity to look up to him?

Can I only admire Irish/German people? (my ethnicity)

Is Neil Degrasse Tyson incapable of being inspired by Kirk, Spock, or McCoy because he is black and they are not? Does his race inherently sabotage their intellectual and human credentials? Is there some unspoken absolute eugenic afoot?

I`m sorry - I don`t see a Portugese crewmember. And command crew... red shirts or background grunts don`t count. Therefore I *KNOW* that people of Portugese descent are utterly incapable of appreciating Star Trek.

Hmmm. I will see fit not to make this a long post (!).
smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Thank you, and well said, Warlok.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

WEDNESDAY, JULY 27

TIME AFTER TIME---trailer for the ABC remake of the movie that starred Malcolm McDowell, Mary Steenburgen and David Warner.



The text underneath the YouTube clip (presumably generated by ABC's PR department) says:

Based on the novel and movie “Time After Time,” executive producer/writer Kevin Williamson (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Scream” franchise, “Dawson’s Creek”) delivers a fantastical cat and mouse adventure through time . . .


I thought Meyer wrote "Time After Time" directly for the screen, but I was obviously wrong. A glance at IMDB would have saved me some typing.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Karl Alexander's Time After Time is excellent, and the movie is one of those rare translations to the screen that follows the book very closely.

https://www.amazon.com/Time-After-Karl-Alexander/dp/0765326221/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665150&sr=8-1&keywords=Karl+Alexander

In the movie there is a plaque next to the Time Machine stating that it is never known to have worked. The book explains how that is possible, despite Wells having just arrived in it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Warlok, it's not about not being able to admire people of other races. It's not about people being unable to enjoy entertainments featuring other people. It's about not having role models like yourself. When the vast majority of heroes on TV, in the movies, are white men, and other people are sidekicks, villains, eye candy, comic relief -- that sends very powerful messages to the people watching that entertainment. When your whole life, almost everything you've seen has featured as the hero someone who does not look like you, it's a very powerful thing to see a hero who is like you.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Karl Alexander's Time After Time is excellent, and the movie is one of those rare translations to the screen that follows the book very closely.

https://www.amazon.com/Time-After-Karl-Alexander/dp/0765326221/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665150&sr=8-1&keywords=Karl+Alexander

In the movie there is a plaque next to the Time Machine stating that it is never known to have worked. The book explains how that is possible, despite Wells having just arrived in it.


Karl Alexander wrote a sequel Jaclyn the Ripper, which was published in 2011.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jaclyn-Ripper-Karl-Alexander/dp/0765358581/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1469666929&sr=1-1

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Jaclyn the Ripper? Thanks for the heads-up, but I'm already a little wary of this "sequel." The blurb on Amazon states that Wells made two time machines, which did not happen in the original novel. As in the movie, the Rotation Reversal Lock returned the machine to 1893 because Stevenson did not have the key to over-ride it.

And this mixed DNA angle sounds too contrived. Stevenson wasn't "stuck" in the distant future, either. Wells didn't actually know what happened to him, but it was unlikely that he'd land anywhen ever. (This is explained in the book when Wells arrives in 1979 and sees how old and rusted the exterior of the time machine is.)

I'll give it a try, but it sounds like too much broken continuity already.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Mastadge, as an aryan (non-Nazi! Just regionally/culturally defining... smile) I confess I cannot *know* a minority position such as that which we speak of. I can *understand* it. It is my hope, and further my contention, that at some immediate point in Mankind`s existence we shall no longer care about that type of 'identity', that ability and character will be our important traits. In arguing concerning capacities of people to identify with others, regardless of cosmetic similarities, I would hope to point to a superior position for society to take, without minimizing any lingering interventional necessities i.e. 1960 college enrollments in southern US states.

In 2016 I earnestly hope that we are advancing along a more enlightened trajectory (!). Somewhat overdue.

Before I continue I acknowledge my own concern over Norse Gods not being of European extraction (Thor). Damn it.

I submit that there is a danger of Jormungandian logic here. If we insist upon certain inclusions based upon race and sex, do we not open the door to further quibbling on those criteria? At the moment I find myself gravitating toward the categorization of new Trek production casts as cliches of inclusiveness, the politically correct and against-odds ethnically diverse 'ensemble'. Once this group is cast (the cast is cast!) for such reasons, are we then not open to deconstructive bickering about the ratio of one over the other? Or who is actually to be Captain? If our science officer is Chinese, are we making a statement about stereotype, and should it be changed? I would prefer to utterly avoid all that.

Even from a lore perspective, by example, I would prefer the criteria for Science Officer be how many PhDs do you have, can you fix this askew warp bubble equation, how many 'i's are in Mississippi, and can you give me a full working knowledge of what all these buttons on my BluRay remote do?

Well, I guess we shall see what they do.
(for the show... not the buttons...)

I am interested in learning more about this Trek effort. I thought the teaser drydock thing was nice but obviously CG. Good that it isn`t Enterprise. Some interesting people involved in it so far. I like the ship design. Will have to sample more trailers and await the eternal BluRay if decent.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

TIME AFTER TIME (series) - Would you believe I have yet to see the original film? Definitely want to. I wonder if I should delay the DVD acquisition in favour of a new remastered HD release (?).

This sounds like a decent stab at an interesting tale, but I echo a randomly sampled internet opinion in doubting whether an ongoing series is really an apt format for it. I doubt its capacity to engage me for seasons rather than hours. I also definitely prefer primary actors in those roles who have a few more years to them.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I feel that there is something of an american Doctor Who here if Time After Time becomes a series. Less flamboyant as US series are of course, but somewhere between Sherlock, Doctor Who (including their own one-off stab in 1996) and Elementary. Can't give a totally clear picture of what I'm getting at here but it's almost as a if a pinch of each of these things would make an american Doctor Who-like series.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

TIME AFTER TIME (series) - Would you believe I have yet to see the original film? Definitely want to. I wonder if I should delay the DVD acquisition in favour of a new remastered HD release (?).

This sounds like a decent stab at an interesting tale, but I echo a randomly sampled internet opinion in doubting whether an ongoing series is really an apt format for it. I doubt its capacity to engage me for seasons rather than hours. I also definitely prefer primary actors in those roles who have a few more years to them.


Time After Time (1979) ... Malcolm McDowell, Mary Steenburgen, David Warner ... is a truly superb film ... perhaps not 100% original but it holds your interest from start to finish and is so good that I've spent years tracking down a decent DVD release (finally, in Spain, in Feb 15) ...

... hence I shouldn't be surprised that it's been remade (given other remakes to date) but watching that clip makes me so happy ... that I managed to buy the DVD of the Nicholas Meyer film (with one of legendary Miklós Rózsa's final scores*) ... the remake looks absolute rubbish (US: trash)!

Mitch

* one of my earliest CD purchases

 
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