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 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Not wasting all of your valuable Trump campaigning time...

Lex Luthor **was** well-played by Jesse Eisenberg. A viewer has to do something to appreciate his performance however, something in truth not too difficult to do: take the character of Luthor not so much as a Superman villain, but as a demented Arkham Asylum style villain. In that family - that context - Eisenberg`s Luthor worked very well.

Affleck, Gadot, and Cavill did very well. I was especially pleased at how (finally) heroic Cavill`s Superman seemed to be. I genuinely liked the guy here, whereas I did not really in the origin film.

The tone of the film matched the attempt to portray these characters in the modern ugly world. Snyder did a good job having them grapple with & exist within such a compromised dull world as our own. Its tough to have genuine heroes in Bladerunner precursors.

The fighting was thoughtfully crafted. Batman`s later combats seemed exceptionally good. The final fighting was a reasonable, smart employment of characters of such disparate power levels. Nice to see folks were up to that challenge.

I look forward to the future films this is bringing us.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I liked it too, War. Not a first-day bluray purchase, but certainly one that I'd pick up at some stage. I also liked it better than the first film. With the passing of time, the re-visiting of the origin story in Man of Steel just seems unnecessarily protracted notwithstanding the different take on his old dads in Crowe and Costner.

The second film, unfettered by the need to establish - again - the mythology, started with an interesting twist and seemed to gallop along. Liked the score too - and especially some of the source music...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I like it too. (Which surprises me.) And it gets better with each viewing. It's a much better film than MOS. I must admit, the fight with the creature at the end might bring eye-rolls from some (I know it did from me on first viewing), but this *is*, after all, a story based on comic books.

To me, the 3-hour cut is even better....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

I'm putting my hand up for liking this movie too.

A few flaws (then again - there are not many movies without flaws) but enjoyable and works within the DC Universe that they are establishing.

It has been long time since I've picked up a comic book but I can only assume this movie was strongly influenced by the New 52 version of the characters?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

There are counseling programs available in your local communities for help with this affliction.



 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)



Oh God... thats good... ! Some of the voice reminds me of South Park...

P.S.: Sharing that one...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

They forgot Batman's ridiculous decision to lead Doomsday across town to where the Kryptonite spear was. Talk about inflicting collateral damage on the city...

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I like it too. (Which surprises me.) And it gets better with each viewing. It's a much better film than MOS. I must admit, the fight with the creature at the end might bring eye-rolls from some (I know it did from me on first viewing), but this *is*, after all, a story based on comic books.

To me, the 3-hour cut is even better....


Good to hear I`m not alone! smile The extended edition shall be viewed soon`ish - looking forward to seeing the differences & additions.

I thought (SPOILER, in case this entire thread wasn`t!...) the fight against the Doomsday creature was handled in a way that was above the usual approach. The audience understood what was going on with each major infliction upon it, the heroes knew what was going on, and therefore nobody needed to state it, beating us over the head with the obvious /inferrable. Yay. Treating us like smart pee-pole.

Also salute the great debut for Gal Gadot: she was the nastiest & most lethal of the team. Nice to see.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

There are counseling programs available in your local communities for help with this affliction.

Like with all super hero films, instead of counselling I just wait for the HISHE video. They are solid, also highly recommend them for Marvel films. Heck their videos for classics are great too. Including Star Wars.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Glad you liked it, Warlok!

I presume you watched the Ultimate Edition, or did you watch the theatrical cut? I saw it several times in the theater. One of the best CBMs yet. Not everyone likes Zack's approach, but their reasons usually fall into the stock "too dark," too gritty," "not enough humor" nonsense. Zack said three years ago that this film would be tonally on par with Frank Miller's landmark 1986 series The Dark Knight Returns — and he delivered!

BvS features the best filmic Batman yet, and Wonder Woman was the film's biggest highlight (even the film's strongest critics liked her). Thematically, the film is on point. Eisenberg's portrayal of Lex turned out to be a bone of contention for many people, but since the film still grossed 872 million worldwide, they didn't speak for everyone.

Of course, the Ultimate Edition added thirty minutes of footage that should not have been cut from the theatrical print, but the studio wanted more showings, because showings means dollar signs.

The score by Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL (who's responsible for that great Wonder Woman theme) was awesome.

Here's to the DCEU!

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

The fighting was thoughtfully crafted. Batman`s later combats seemed exceptionally good. The final fighting was a reasonable, smart employment of characters of such disparate power levels. Nice to see folks were up to that challenge.

The warehouse fight instantly became the best Batman action sequence in any film to date, and honestly, it's one of the best CBM fights ever. Probably the best. Where much of the action in Civil War was choppy, sped-up and had a strobe effect applied, this one relied on none of those gimmicks.

I look forward to the future films this is bringing us.

Copy that!

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

They forgot Batman's ridiculous decision to lead Doomsday across town to where the Kryptonite spear was. Talk about inflicting collateral damage on the city...

In the film, Wonder Woman asks Batman why he led Doomsday "back to the city." Batman said it's an industrial sector that's largely uninhabited. It's also where the kryptonite spear is, but Batman's unable to get to it because he's dodging Doomsday's energy blasts. Then Wonder Woman fights Doomsday while Superman rescues Lois, who has become trapped under falling rubble while attempting to retrieve the spear — that she herself tossed into an indoor pool because she wanted to get rid of it. Superman hears her cries for help while zooming in for another heat-ray attack.

Clear enough?

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Double post.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

I disliked the film quite a bit and thought it was truly awful and nonsensical on many levels, mostly the writing... but sticking to positives--

The opening ten minutes or so were well done and established Batman's hatred of Supes very well.

I was surprised how much i liked Wonder Woman. She's great looking, but i thought she did well with her limited screen time and looked good in action.

I did think Affleck made an excellent Batman and was the highlight of the film. Jeremy Irons was great too, so i'll be happy to see him have more time on screen also. I'm looking forward to what the Batman film will bring (and which composer).

The music was pretty decent in spots, too, though i have still to listen to the album i bought to get into it properly.

A couple of the Batman fight moments were decent. More on the crunchy, brutal side, which was nice. Bats getting shot point-blank in the back of the head was a bit of a surprise.

The futuristic vision scene was pretty good and looked nice. Just don't look at the fight scene too hard as it makes no sense - everyone with guns running right up to Bats and doing there best to somehow not fire their guns.

Oh, and the obligatory Batman parents death scene was actually beautifully shot.

This was the extended edition i watched, so not sure what was in the original cut. it actually didn't feel like 3 hours or whatever it was. It didn't really drag or was difficult to watch, despite me not liking it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Peeks in, and tippy toes out.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Glad you liked it, Warlok!

I presume you watched the Ultimate Edition, or did you watch the theatrical cut? I saw it several times in the theater. One of the best CBMs yet. Not everyone likes Zack's approach, but their reasons usually fall into the stock "too dark," too gritty," "not enough humor" nonsense. Zack said three years ago that this film would be tonally on par with Frank Miller's landmark 1986 series The Dark Knight Returns — and he delivered!

BvS features the best filmic Batman yet, and Wonder Woman was the film's biggest highlight (even the film's strongest critics liked her). Thematically, the film is on point. Eisenberg's portrayal of Lex turned out to be a bone of contention for many people, but since the film still grossed 872 million worldwide, they didn't speak for everyone.

Of course, the Ultimate Edition added thirty minutes of footage that should not have been cut from the theatrical print, but the studio wanted more showings, because showings means dollar signs.

The score by Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL (who's responsible for that great Wonder Woman theme) was awesome.

Here's to the DCEU!


Dear double-posting Bastard,

(smile)

Ummm - cough - when my brother and I sat down to watch this, we fully intended to view the extended version. In went the disc, Play was pressed, and BEHOLD moving pictures. After what seemed like a shorter timespan than we had anticipated, I investigated further to discover I had neglected to, ummm, look in the case, to see the extended version disc beneath the normal one. (SLAP)

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Dear double-posting Bastard,

(smile)

Ummm - cough - when my brother and I sat down to watch this, we fully intended to view the extended version. In went the disc, Play was pressed, and BEHOLD moving pictures. After what seemed like a shorter timespan than we had anticipated, I investigated further to discover I had neglected to, ummm, look in the case, to see the extended version disc beneath the normal one. (SLAP)


I loved the theatrical cut (well, duh). The Ultimate Edition simply brings more goodness to the table.

Again, glad you liked the movie because you actually watched it and liked it and didn't jump on the haters' choo-choo in spite of whatever.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Laurence Fishburne deserves an accolade as well, especially for his line about bygone ages in journalism (and life). Intelligent as always.

Classic line.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2016 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

They forgot Batman's ridiculous decision to lead Doomsday across town to where the Kryptonite spear was. Talk about inflicting collateral damage on the city...

In the film, Wonder Woman asks Batman why he led Doomsday "back to the city." Batman said it's an industrial sector that's largely uninhabited. It's also where the kryptonite spear is, but Batman's unable to get to it because he's dodging Doomsday's energy blasts. Then Wonder Woman fights Doomsday while Superman rescues Lois, who has become trapped under falling rubble while attempting to retrieve the spear — that she herself tossed into an indoor pool because she wanted to get rid of it. Superman hears her cries for help while zooming in for another heat-ray attack.

Clear enough?


I thought Bats originally said over the radio that he was leading Doomzy across town to where the spear was. I dont recall that bit of dialog with WW about the industrial sector. Didnt need the rest of the story summary, but I guess it proves you watched the movie - congratulations.

I'm thinking Bats saw this as an opportunity for Wayne Industries to put its competitors out of business with a future option to buy destroyed property cheap

 
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