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 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Is anybody else having this problem? Windows 7 will be stuck "checking for updates" for any length of time, and do nothing. This has just started happening; my last successful update was on 7/11. I've never had this issue before.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I've had this problem for quite a while now. Some months the 'checking for updates' is fairly quick, but most months it's up to a couple of hours. One time I had to leave the PC on overnight to get just the check to complete. On that occasion I finished off the update process the following morning.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Here's a web column on the subject with some proposed solutions--if you can figure out what the author is saying.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3161647-kb-3161608-to-fix-slow-windows-7-update-scans.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

My laptop is on its last legs & the last couple of updates have pushed it over the edge, I've restored it a couple of times & turned off the auto updates. I might get another few months out of it. As computers get older they get slower, I'm convinced it's all these bloody updates, I don't have any other kit that needs updating all the time.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Go here:

https://computercrimeinfo.com/links.html

Use the instructions in the Computer Maintenance Links section, and the free software.


This is the guy is former FBI Cyber Crime and now Tech Advisor for Mr. Robot.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Thanks, guys. I think it's pretty clear Microsoft is letting Win7 get jacked up so we'll be more inclined to take Win10.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 1:23 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Thanks, guys. I think it's pretty clear Microsoft is letting Win7 get jacked up so we'll be more inclined to take Win10.

Well, that might very well be true though it's not certain. The Win10 nagware period ends at the end of this month and it remains then to be seen how MS will treat its non-Win10 users. I use Linux Mint for general tasks now, but I do have to keep a Win7 partition going to work with some non-Linux hardware and software.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I haven't met a person in real life yet who doesn't hate Windows 10. Havign set up a computer for a friend and gone through it for other reasons, I have come to the conclusion Windows 10 was designed by Satan.

Even a number of local businesses got so frustrated trying to use it that they downgraded to other versiosn of Windows like Vista.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   observant observer   (Member)

Many business and schools are still running Windows 7 (myself included) due to a whole smorgesboard of issues with Windows 10 including more tracking / data retention by Microsoft.

If you are having issues with updates rule out malware / viruses first using MalwareBytes free and a decent virus scanner like AVG etc

Then download the following hot fix from Microsoft, 9 times out of 10 this resolves things;

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265

Hope this helps.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I have had 10 for a year and it works fine for me.
I read through all the concerns about Microsoft snooping and turned it all off.

7 is going to be mothballed the same way that they did to XP

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Then download the following hot fix from Microsoft, 9 times out of 10 this resolves things;

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265


Thanks, Neil. I'm going to try that this weekend
.


I have had 10 for a year and it works fine for me.
I read through all the concerns about Microsoft snooping and turned it all off.


I have a second PC with Win-10 that I haven't fully moved into yet. How do you turn off the Microsoft surveillance?

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

I have a second PC with Win-10 that I haven't fully moved into yet. How do you turn off the Microsoft surveillance?

There's a lot of helpful guides online to help "tame" the more annoying/invasive Windows 10, either during the initial install or after it's already installed. Here's a few links that might help you out:

https://fix10.isleaked.com/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-secure-windows-10-the-paranoids-guide/
http://www.howtogeek.com/221864/digging-into-and-understanding-windows-10s-privacy-settings/

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Thanks, Trekfan. That's exactly what I need for the new PC.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2016 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This is total crap. Microsoft execs should be jailed for mass producing such an intrusive product, and making the customer go through hoops to protect their own privacy. And when it's all said and done who knows if you really have any privacy. This is spyware sold as a mainstream product.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The hot fix for slow updates (3050265) did not work for me. All it does is open a new ("stand alone") Checking for Updates pop-up, and that hangs there like dead fish, same as the main one. I had to kill it; it was no fix at all.

I finally got this month's security updates by walking away and letting the old Checking for Updates panel languish indefinitely. It took a full eight hours to get the updates.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   observant observer   (Member)

The hot fix for slow updates (3050265) did not work for me. All it does is open a new ("stand alone") Checking for Updates pop-up, and that hangs there like dead fish, same as the main one. I had to kill it; it was no fix at all.

I finally got this month's security updates by walking away and letting the old Checking for Updates panel languish indefinitely. It took a full eight hours to get the updates.


Sorry about that Zap, might be worth seeing if you have the following update installed

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810

Unfortunately their are several hotfixs for hanging Windows updates and sometimes it can be trial and error until the right hotfix kicks it back to life.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Okay, I might have it fixed now. To get Win-7 updates to not take 8 hours, you need KB 3161608. But first you need to ensure that you have Service Pack 1 installed, as well as KB 3020369.

Then you can install KB 3161608.

Note that the install failed on my first attempt. I clicked on the details, and it suggested I check my spelling. That's Microsoft; I hadn't spelled anything, just selected that KB from a list of optional updates.

The second attempt succeeded, apparently because with spaghetti code, doing the same thing twice does not produce the same result.

I got it from the link Bob DiMucci provided:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3161647-kb-3161608-to-fix-slow-windows-7-update-scans.html

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Sorry about that Zap, might be worth seeing if you have the following update installed

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810

Unfortunately their are several hotfixs for hanging Windows updates and sometimes it can be trial and error until the right hotfix kicks it back to life.



I appreciate it anyway, Neil. Incidentally, it's hard to find a given update in the history list, because there are hundreds of them, there is no Find or Search function in the Updates screen, and the updates are not in numerical order. So... I could very well have 3102810. Only my hairdresser knows for sure. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

it's hard to find a given update in the history list, because there are hundreds of them, there is no Find or Search function in the Updates screen, and the updates are not in numerical order.


Does your list of installed Windows updates look different than mine? Mine has a search box in the far upper-right-hand corner.



In Windows 7, this is found by clicking Start; Control Panel; System and Security; View Installed Updates.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2016 - 10:12 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Oh, I was in: Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Update\View update history...



...and that search box doesn't find KB numbers. I see where you're going now. Thanks.

And it turns out I do have 3102810 installed, since November.

 
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