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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      General Discussion: Beastmaster VS Beastmaster - Quartet/BSX, which?   Last Post   Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 1:17 PM     By:   riotengine   (Member) I have both of these, but don't think I need both. Anyone have an opinion on either release? They both sound pretty good. The BSX gets the edge for me by including the Charles Gerhardt Beastmaster suite. Any opinions on what people consider the best release? Greg Espinoza    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 1:58 PM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) Well, it depends. The BSX one may have been remastered to fit a preference of "the car test", while the Quartet one may have natural sound levels/dynamics.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 2:42 PM     By:   riotengine   (Member) Well, it depends. The BSX one may have been remastered to fit a preference of "the car test", while the Quartet one may have natural sound levels/dynamics. Interesting. So I might just want to hang on to both. Greg Espinoza    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 2:48 PM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) Personally, if the Quartet one is as I suggested it might be, I'd keep that one and rip the re-recording suite from the other and trade it off for something else I wanted. But that's just me.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 2:58 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I don't like the way Lee Holdridge sequenced either of them (I only have the Quartet of the expanded releases), so I ended up sticking with the original LP programme, from the composer promo edition, that added some music from his Beauty & the Beast series.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 6:49 PM     By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member) Well, it depends. The BSX one may have been remastered to fit a preference of "the car test", while the Quartet one may have natural sound levels/dynamics. God forbid we remaster the project to the composer's liking. That was a big help in working on this project. Lee really had a hell of a lot import into how the BSX release sounded. For the record QUARTET did a fine job on their OOP release. When we decided to reissue it, we just wanted to go and do something a little different and wanted Lee Holdridge's input in order to make the best possible release. The new version also passed "The Car Test", it's a very common thing in the recording industry, if it sounds good in the car you tend to be in very good shape. What you have to bear in mind is that people tend to consume their music in three ways: 1.) On Headphones (Mostly earbuds) 2.) In Their Cars 3.) On Their computer while working. You have to bear that in mind when doing these projects. You want it to sound as good as possible when played in these ways. Ford A. Thaxton    Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 6:53 PM     By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member) I have both of these, but don't think I need both. Anyone have an opinion on either release? They both sound pretty good. The BSX gets the edge for me by including the Charles Gerhardt Beastmaster suite. Any opinions on what people consider the best release? Greg Espinoza The QUARTET release is very good and they did a fine job on it. Our Version just took a slightly different approach and we had the benefit of Lee Holdridge in the remastering of it. It's with noting we used the masters for the album that were used for the PROMO release back in the 90's and this gave JAMES NELSON a chance to give it a good spit and polish. The Full score need a bit of SPIT AND POLISH in order to fix some performance issues that Lee wanted us to address (Mostly on the Main Title) and just give it a warmer feel. We hope you folks enjoy it. Ford A. Thaxton    Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 1:11 AM     By:   EdG   (Member) The BSX release has the better cover art, FWIW.    Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 9:49 PM     By:   ghp1977   (Member) And what about the film version of the battle on the pyramid that appears on the quartet? Isn't it better to have everything from the composer conducting himself? Obviously I'm aware that it is Charles Gerhart that it's conducting the suite. What are your thoughts on these?    Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 10:02 PM     By:   JB Fan   (Member) And what about the film version of the battle on the pyramid that appears on the quartet? Isn't it better to have everything from the composer conducting himself? Obviously I'm aware that it is Charles Gerhart that it's conducting the suite. What are your thoughts on these? If I remember correctly, we discussed this with Ford - album version of "The Battle on the Pyramid" is the same as "film version", so Quartet doubled it - first time it appeared as album track, then - as "film version" in bonus section. I don't have Quartet edition, can anyone correct me if I'm wrong and this 2 tracks have any difference (in Quartet version)?    Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 10:04 PM     By:   Wedge   (Member) And what about the film version of the battle on the pyramid that appears on the quartet? Isn't it better to have everything from the composer conducting himself? Obviously I'm aware that it is Charles Gerhart that it's conducting the suite. What are your thoughts on these? The revised "Battle on the Pyramid" cue is part of the original album program, which is on both the BSX and Quartet releases. Quartet also included it at the end of the second disc, just for the sake of anyone who might want to resequence the cue in film order without ripping or switching discs. So it's not missing from the BSX, they just opted to use that extra space for something else.    Posted:   Aug 16, 2016 - 4:47 AM     By:   Mr Hand   (Member) The new version also passed "The Car Test", it's a very common thing in the recording industry, if it sounds good in the car you tend to be in very good shape. What you have to bear in mind is that people tend to consume their music in three ways: 1.) On Headphones (Mostly earbuds) 2.) In Their Cars 3.) On Their computer while working. You have to bear that in mind when doing these projects. You want it to sound as good as possible when played in these ways. Ford A. Thaxton I understand the logic, but I'm with Mr Fake on this issue (see his 7/13 post : http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f) Ideally, it should be the task of the listening device to fix dynamically EQ levels etc. to suit the listening context, instead of compromising the source material.    Posted:   Aug 16, 2016 - 6:41 AM     By:   John-73   (Member) Well, it depends. The BSX one may have been remastered to fit a preference of "the car test", while the Quartet one may have natural sound levels/dynamics. God forbid we remaster the project to the composer's liking. That was a big help in working on this project. Lee really had a hell of a lot import into how the BSX release sounded. For the record QUARTET did a fine job on their OOP release. When we decided to reissue it, we just wanted to go and do something a little different and wanted Lee Holdridge's input in order to make the best possible release. The new version also passed "The Car Test", it's a very common thing in the recording industry, if it sounds good in the car you tend to be in very good shape. What you have to bear in mind is that people tend to consume their music in three ways: 1.) On Headphones (Mostly earbuds) 2.) In Their Cars 3.) On Their computer while working. You have to bear that in mind when doing these projects. You want it to sound as good as possible when played in these ways. Ford A. Thaxton It's attitudes like this towards mastering that led directly to the loudness wars and many albums being sonically ruined! Soundtracks need to be tested first & foremost on a decent hifi system, then on the lesser devices. Compressing music so it sounds good in the car should be a crime!     General Discussion: Beastmaster VS Beastmaster - Quartet/BSX, which?    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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