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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Broken Lance
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2016 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Listening to the main title, one might believe it was the score to a late '40s-early '50s crime drama with an Asian flavor, but it's a western! Lots of melodramatic, "psychological"-sounding music by Harline here.

Here's "Broken Lance" at Grauman's Chinese Theater:

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2016 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Reel7   (Member)

Absolutely one of my favourite western scores. Under-rated. Mind you anything by Leigh Harline is fine by me. Just love his main title to 'Good Morning Miss Dove'

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2016 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

I love the score. I wish there was more of it!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2016 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Listening to the main title, one might believe it was the score to a late '40s-early '50s crime drama with an Asian flavor, but it's a western! Lots of melodramatic, "psychological"-sounding music by Harline here.

Here's "Broken Lance" at Grauman's Chinese Theater:





Great photo of Hollywood Blvd. in the 1950s Jim.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2016 - 11:51 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Yep, beautiful. Thanks -- I love seeing images of how my neighborhood looked decades ago before I was old enough to move here from Connecticut. It makes me wistful, though -- I'd certainly much rather go to see BROKEN LANCE with Tracy and Widmark than any of the movies that are playing today at the Chinese multiplex.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I don't suppose that streetcar is still up and runnng today...

Leigh Harline's score for The Wonderful World of The Brothers Grimm is bee-yoo-ti-ful! I really should explore his music more.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Great Twilight Time Blu-ray too! Beautiful transfer and sound, excellent commentary with Earl Holliman, and isolated score of course. Get it if you love this movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I wish the musical elements to Leigh Harline's score to MAN OF THE WEST were preserved by the Mirisch Brothers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

I wish the musical elements to Leigh Harline's score to MAN OF THE WEST were preserved by the Mirisch Brothers.


Yes! Me too...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I wish the musical elements to Leigh Harline's score to MAN OF THE WEST were preserved by the Mirisch Brothers.



Excellent film and score. Bobby Troup wrote the impressive main title theme. I too would love to have the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

I wish the musical elements to Leigh Harline's score to MAN OF THE WEST were preserved by the Mirisch Brothers.



Excellent film and score. Bobby Troup wrote the impressive main title theme. I too would love to have the score.




PFK, although Bobby Troup did write a song for Man of the West, it bears no relation to Leigh Harline's Americana-type approach in the actual main title of the picture.

Bobby Troup's song (sung by his wife Julie London) can be heard here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsCYJTHfWPg


Mr Harline's impressive music opens this Youtube sequence -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb31ovSWr5I

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Listening to the main title, one might believe it was the score to a late '40s-early '50s crime drama with an Asian flavor, but it's a western! Lots of melodramatic, "psychological"-sounding music by Harline here.


It's funny you should say this, Jim Phelps.

BROKEN LANCE, with an Oscar-winning script by Philip Yordan, is based on his screenplay for the family crime-drama made by 20th-Fox in 1949, HOUSE OF STRANGERS. (Yordan had adapted it from a novel by Jerome Weidman.)

Fox seemed to love this material, as it was also made into a family-drama about a European circus, THE BIG SHOW, starring Esther Williams and Cliff Robertson, in 1961.


 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

FOX loves to use the properties it controls, doesn't it? They must own the rights to the song Again, because instrumental versions of said song are frequently heard throughout the series M*A*S*H, and no wonder since it was co-written by Lionel Newman!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I wish the musical elements to Leigh Harline's score to MAN OF THE WEST were preserved by the Mirisch Brothers.



Excellent film and score. Bobby Troup wrote the impressive main title theme. I too would love to have the score.




PFK, although Bobby Troup did write a song for Man of the West, it bears no relation to Leigh Harline's Americana-type approach in the actual main title of the picture.

Bobby Troup's song (sung by his wife Julie London) can be heard here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsCYJTHfWPg


Mr Harline's impressive music opens this Youtube sequence -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb31ovSWr5I




I don't know James, you might be right. But why did Bobby Troup get credit in the main titles for a song never used in the film? The YouTube song wouldn't fit anywhere in the film. The YouTube post could be incorrect? I like the YouTube song and have always liked Julie London. The main title theme is beautiful no matter who composed it. Was the main title theme ever on an LP?
Guess we'll never know for sure who composed the main title. I always liked the film, first saw it about 1965. It starts out nice enough but then becomes very dark and somber. I'm surprised Gary Cooper did such a down-beat film. My guess is it didn't do very well at the box office.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

But why did Bobby Troup get credit in the main titles for a song never used in the film?


Just speculating here. At the time of the 1958 film, Bobby Troup was Julie London's manager. (They would not marry until 1959.) Troup may have worked it into London's contract that in order to get her, he would be allowed to write a title song for the film, which, used or not, would still be credited in the film. Good promotion for both London and the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:18 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

But why did Bobby Troup get credit in the main titles for a song never used in the film?


Just speculating here. At the time of the 1958 film, Bobby Troup was Julie London's manager. (They would not marry until 1959.) Troup may have worked it into London's contract that in order to get her, he would be allowed to write a title song for the film, which, used or not, would still be credited in the film. Good promotion for both London and the film.




Interesting thought Bob. Guess the only way to know for sure would be to see a copy of the main title sheet music. Perhaps someone could research this on the internet? For over 50 years I always wondered just who actually composed the beautiful main title theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

MAN OF THE WEST wasn't the first time that Bobby Troup wrote a song for a film with Julie London. It was the fourth time.

  • Troup wrote the title song for 1956's THE GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, sung by Little Richard in the film.

  • For 1957's THE GREAT MAN, Troup co-wrote the song "The Meaning of the Blues," sung by Julie London in the film.

  • For 1958's VOICE IN THE MIRROR, Troup and Julie London co-wrote the title song, which was sung by London.



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     Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 9:57 PM   
     By:   RoryR   (Member)

    MAN OF THE WEST wasn't the first time that Bobby Troup wrote a song for a film with Julie London. It was the fourth time.

  • Troup wrote the title song for 1956's THE GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, sung by Little Richard in the film.

    Did he also write the song Edmund O'Brien sung in the same movie?

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     Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 10:02 PM   
     By:   cody1949   (Member)

    There is no mystery as to who wrote the beautiful opening theme. I got the movie out from my collection. It's there in the opening credits . Music by Leigh Harline . Song for Julie London by Bobby Troup.

     
     
     Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 10:11 PM   
     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

  • Troup wrote the title song for 1956's THE GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, sung by Little Richard in the film.
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    Did he also write the song Edmund O'Brien sung in the same movie?


    If you are referring to "Rock Around the Rock Pile," yes, Troup wrote that as well.

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