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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

...hey, a click bait topic right out of the Book of (Jim) Cleveland! big grinbig grinbig grin

Here's a brief interview with L.A. Confidential author James Ellroy where he discusses his likes and dislikes. I think a few of us are well on our way to becoming just like this guy in terms of overall public grouchiness:

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Is James Ellroy secretly....

Solium?




wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Here's James Ellroy on his "uncluttered, quiet life."



I keenly appreciate his avowed minimalist philosophy. I'd love to be able to focus on one interest to the exclusion of all else.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

...hey, a click bait topic right out of the Book of (Jim) Cleveland! big grinbig grinbig grin

Here's a brief interview with L.A. Confidential author James Ellroy where he discusses his likes and dislikes. I think a few of us are well on our way to becoming just like this guy in terms of overall public grouchiness:



Well, I share his love of solitude and I'm fast agreeing with his general attitude towards all of popular culture, especially that the movie version of L.A. CONFIDENTAL is somewhat overrated (I've never read the book), but otherwise I think the guy is just a wiseass clown. He should just stick to writing and not talk, especially in public. I think he might be related to Trump.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

OK, I just read about his life on Wikipedia, and watched a couple other of the Youtube videos with him.

An ex-wife says his political views are "bullshit." He's fucking with people. I can't say I like him, but he's harmless. His mother was raped and murdered when he was ten. Got to feel sorry for the guy, but he's done well for himself.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is James Ellroy secretly....

Solium?




wink


Ha, not me, but I'm getting there. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2016 - 11:07 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Is James Ellroy secretly....

Solium?




wink


Ha, not me, but I'm getting there. wink



Thanks for laughing along, Solium. I was afraid you were going to be mad....

smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2016 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

This one's even better and more inspirational.

James Ellroy on why he denies the modern world--contemporary world, really. wink



"This is a good culture to deny."

Speaking of FDR and who the U.S. president "is", I've done the same sort of thing with the JFK era, as all 64 of his press conferences are on YouTube--I catch up on these "current events" while I shave my aging face every morning.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2016 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Is James Ellroy secretly....

Solium?




wink


Ha, not me, but I'm getting there. wink




No, there's still time , I can feel the good in you, you haven't turned to the Dark Side yet razz


I used to be really into Ellroy, but as his books became bigger they gained more of a self important tone and became less compelling. And the he's always been a pain in the ass big grin

Although the first video above shows him to be slyly playing up his notorious Grumpy Old Bastard image, he's wrong about one thing, the film version of L.A. Confidential runs circles around the book. Once he became a slightly recognizable public figure, he's really had a ball using that megalomaniac persona.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2016 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Curtis Hanson and Brian Helgeland worked wonders scaling down Ellroy's glorious mess of an epic novel. I feel that the film works better. I felt superfluous characters and the elongated time frame muddied the great story that the film brought out.

I do like the insane amount of details that Ellroy puts in his nobels, though. Things like badge numbers, fitness reports, excerpts from scandal sheets, and a "you are there" atmosphere that all great books create for the reader.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2016 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The sound is off but the interview itself has Ellroy at his hardboiled, used-car salesman full-of-shite best:

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2016 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

One of the better James Ellroy interviews I've read. It's from the Paris Review, 2009:

http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5948/the-art-of-fiction-no-201-james-ellroy

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2016 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The sound is off but the interview itself has Ellroy at his hardboiled, used-car salesman full-of-shite best:


Is he eccentric or retarded? I can't tell.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2016 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

The sound is off but the interview itself has Ellroy at his hardboiled, used-car salesman full-of-shite best:


Is he eccentric or retarded? I can't tell.


He thinks he's funny, that's for sure. But I'm tired of his "act" after only watching a few Youtube videos. Wish he hadn't been brought to my attention, I've been blissfully ignorant of him for over a quarter century. Can't say that now.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2016 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

The sound is off but the interview itself has Ellroy at his hardboiled, used-car salesman full-of-shite best:


Is he eccentric or retarded? I can't tell.

He thinks he's funny, that's for sure. But I'm tired of his "act" after only watching a few Youtube videos. Wish he hadn't been brought to my attention, I've been blissfully ignorant of him for over a quarter century. Can't say that now.



Agreed, his shtick is tiresome beyond belief. He's also a terrible writer. I've never been able to finish a single one of his crap books.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2016 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Funny that the sci-fi FSMers who hate everything also happen to hate James Ellroy. the Force is clearly not strong with you two boys.

I am the only James Ellroy fan on this board---cool! I shouldn't have expected many people on what is sadly a sci-fi forum to like a crime fiction writer. embarrassment

The Paris Review interview linked above, while not entirely free of Ellroy's usual hubris, is an excellent overview of his life and work.

Here's another interview that showcases the "lighter side" of the author. Chicks dig him! cool

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2016 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Funny that the sci-fi FSMers who hate everything also happen to hate James Ellroy. the Force is clearly not strong with you two boys.

I am the only James Ellroy fan on this board---cool! I shouldn't have expected many people on what is sadly a sci-fi forum to like a crime fiction writer.


Jimmy's got a man crush!

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2016 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Funny that the sci-fi FSMers who hate everything also happen to hate James Ellroy. the Force is clearly not strong with you two boys.

I am the only James Ellroy fan on this board---cool! I shouldn't have expected many people on what is sadly a sci-fi forum to like a crime fiction writer. embarrassment



For what it's worth Ive never been into crime/detective/mafia stuff. With a few exceptions like The Rockford Files, and that was all about the actor and my crush on his gf in the series.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2016 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

For what it's worth Ive never been into crime/detective/mafia stuff.


There're plenty of good hard-boiled crime writers who are actually worth reading - Jim Thompson may be wildly uneven, but at his best he wipes the floor with Ellroy. David Goodis, Charles Willeford and Chester Himes are also quite good, and then, of course, there's the classics: Hammett, Chandler and Macdonald.

Ellroy's absurdly hotted-up prose is like Neontrinity on a fistful of bennies and a three-dollar bottle of rotgut desperately trying to emulate Tom Waits in his hipster period. It's the total devolution of the hard-boiled style.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2016 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

I've only read the LA Quartet and maybe 4 others, Browns Requiem and American Tabloid and The Cold Six Thousand but liked then a lot, especially seeing the various characters interwoven through them. Some being lead characters in one book and then offed unceremoniously in another. When you read LA Vonfidential you realise how amazing the film adaption is. A 10 year long sprawling plot distilled down so well.

I don't like the man himself so much. He's like Jose Morinho. I don't see that many interviews of him and hàlf the time he just annoys me and half the time I like him but he's an interesting dude. Also I think his writing style has gone too far for me to enjoy fully, with his incredibly short sentences for the most part.

I'm not sure if it's in the interviews above but I do remember him saying after LA Comfidential film came out a woman came up to him and said "I just love the film!" "Did you buy the book," he asked. "No." "Then what the fuck use are you to me."

I might be a bit off with the exact wording.

 
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