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Jul 1, 2016 - 8:27 AM
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RoryR
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The film is outlandishly sexist with contemporary eyes, but it was a product of its time. Beyond that aspect, I can't -- with a clear conscience -- say it's a very good film. It's more like a sequence of random skits that are more or less tied to a concept. But yeah -- some individual, standout moments that are mildly amusing.
You've seen this movie but you've never seen THE SAND PEBBLES!!! Thor, you are a real piece of work! Mmmm! Mmmm! Mmmmm!!!!
Anyway, I didn't want to be too judgemental and piss Jimmy off, but yeah, it's not that great a comedy, but I enjoy it as the artifact of its day that it is. Here's someone that would agree with you though, Thor.
The movie is simply "a series of dumb skits" in Pauline Kael's estimation, and the famous names in the cast are all wasted: "what they do is no more memorable than the plugs for brand-name products that are scattered throughout".
By the way, Thor, I'm sure Pauline Kael saw THE SAND PEBBLES.
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Jul 2, 2016 - 8:12 AM
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RoryR
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I prefer THE REIVERS over THE SAND PEBBLES as far the albums are concerned, but both are good. As a film, THE REIVERS certainly has some values, but is a bit on the "hokey" side for much of it. I wouldn't be surprised if THE SAND PEBBLES is a better film.
Well, you'll never know if you never watch it.
Sorry to be mean, Thor, but you frustrate me. Most older movies are so much better to look at than so-called movies today, which aren't just lacking in artistic merit, but in simple craftsmanship.
Anyway, my problem with THE REIVERS is it's a little cheap production-wise. Set in Mississippi, it was all shot in the Malibu hills.
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Jul 2, 2016 - 10:47 AM
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Thor
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Sorry to be mean, Thor, but you frustrate me. Most older movies are so much better to look at than so-called movies today, which aren't just lacking in artistic merit, but in simple craftsmanship.
Well, that's your opinion. Personally, I think there are great contemporary movies (both "arthouse" and blockbusters) and great older movies, and I would hazard a guess that I've seen a lot more movies than you across a wider scope of eras, genres and styles. On my to-see list, there is a great number of films (both new and old) that I need to see before THE SAND PEBBLES -- films by the likes of Ray, de Sica, Godard, Truffaut, Renoir, Eisenstein etc. (beyond the obvious ones) before I get to a film like THE SAND PEBBLES -- a parenthesis in Hollywood film history, if that. But not to worry; I'll get to it at some point; if only to stop your nagging. 
Anyways....A GUIDE FOR THE MARRIED MAN! Yeah, problematic (though amusing) movie, great score, not the best album presentation.
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Jul 3, 2016 - 9:06 AM
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RoryR
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It's surprising that Guide for the Married Man's score had never been released in any format, according to the liner notes, given that many of Johnny's comedy scores had received LP releases back then.
Yeah, that's what I mentioned earlier. It's rather bizarre. If you have the liner notes in front of you (I don't), does it say WHY Williams didn't prepare an album back in the day?
It wasn't up to Williams to prepare anything. The producers decided those thing, and I assume still do. Also, Williams was mostly know back then as "Johnny" Williams of the TV theme tunes to Irwin Allen Sci-Fi schlock. I know that's something Williams fans don't like to hear, but I was around back then and even though I was just a kid, I had some awareness of it. It wasn't until he started doing the scores for movies that would become blockbusters in the '70s that Williams' reputation started to grow, and then really arrived with STAR WARS.
Thor, I guess you're still learning, kid.
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Jul 3, 2016 - 10:02 AM
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Thor
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It wasn't up to Williams to prepare anything. The producers decided those thing, and I assume still do. Also, Williams was mostly know back then as "Johnny" Williams of the TV theme tunes to Irwin Allen Sci-Fi schlock. I know that's something Williams fans don't like to hear, but I was around back then and even though I was just a kid, I had some awareness of it. It wasn't until he started doing the scores for movies that would become blockbusters in the '70s that Williams' reputation started to grow, and then really arrived with STAR WARS.
Thor, I guess you're still learning, kid.
Ha, ha...I'll outsmart you on Williams any day of the week.
It would be interesting to hear why Williams (or the producers) didn't opt for an album release in this case, since he had enjoyed a decent success with similar soundtracks for similar films earlier in the 60s. I can definitely hear a good LP program style-release in there somewhere, especially with the existing "setpiece" tracks like "The Globetrotters".
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