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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: The Ignominious Fate of Taylor's Spaceship    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2       Last Post   Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 5:00 PM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) It's a great blooper that the windows of Taylor's ship both fall out when Dodge blows the hatch. That goof aside, the scenes of Taylor's ship in the Frobideen Zone sea are just simply brilliant. Even now they still stand up as looking incredible and very much convey the look of a spaceship from Earth having crashed on a totally alien planet.    Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 5:03 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) What's the consensus about the actual size of the ship under the waterline? Many suggested we never saw the propulsion section as it was hidden underwater. (Never actually realized as it was never to be seen) Others say, what you see is what you get. Others suggest the crew cabin was the second stage and the first stage disconnected and fell away during the crash landing. (again never visualized because it was never seen) Here's another YouTube video that briefly suggests what the rest of the ship could have looked like: Bumped this for anyone interested that haven't noticed the thread. Even though this was over and done with over thirty-five years ago -- probably -- I still can't believe the waste of it. Too bad there's never been a Hollywood museum where such things could be retired to. I really like that concept for the rear of the ship. It completes the design nicely.    Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 5:08 PM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) I have a feeling in my bones that LB Abbott and Co. shot a flying sub type water crash but it wasn't used. ZERO proof of that, just a bit fun speculation. The model shot of the ship sinking in the wide water did look VERY Voyage/Bottom/Sea. So you wonder.... I don't know about that but I think the way the crash is shot is absolutely brilliant. From the moment the credits fade, with all the POV stuff and then finally the slow pull-back from the ship's cockpit, it is just a superb sequence which totally conveys the effects of the crash without the need for model shots or FX. And it doesn't stop there. The sound FX of the water pressure scream as the crew see the corpse of Stewart is just inspired. To my view the entire openin 20 minutes of PofA is just one of the greatest pieces of film direction, editing, sound mix and production design ever.    Posted:   Jun 26, 2016 - 6:05 PM     By:   RoryR   (Member) I have a feeling in my bones that LB Abbott and Co. shot a flying sub type water crash but it wasn't used. ZERO proof of that, just a bit fun speculation. The model shot of the ship sinking in the wide water did look VERY Voyage/Bottom/Sea. So you wonder.... If that shot of the spaceship sinking beneath the waves looks like something out of the "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" TV series -- it should. It's a five or six foot miniature of the spaceship in the second of Fox's "Sersen" tanks (named after Fred Sersen, head of Fox's SFX dept. in the '40s and '50s). The first stood on the Fox lot in LA, but was destroyed when Fox sold its back lot in the early sixties. A second one was built on the Fox Ranch in Malibu and that's where everything from the movie VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA, its TV series, the BATMAN movie (a full size sub mock up), DOCTOR DOLITTLE (the pink sea snail), TORA! TORA! TORA! and THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE shot their miniatures involving ships at sea. Scroll down to the last quarter of the page linked below and you'll see the shot of Taylor's spaceship sinking in the tank. The miniature is in the tank's water, the surface blown by fans to make small waves to scale, the sky is a four-story tall painted backdrop, and the desert buttes and landscape on either side are matte paintings by Emil Kosa Jr. and photographically composited by L.B. Abbott. http://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/2011/07/salute-to-20th-century-fox-special.html    Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 12:36 AM     By:   Disco Stu   (Member) I don't know about that but I think the way the crash is shot is absolutely brilliant. From the moment the credits fade, with all the POV stuff and then finally the slow pull-back from the ship's cockpit, it is just a superb sequence which totally conveys the effects of the crash without the need for model shots or FX. Always found those sped up "cloud through" sequences were messy because back then they didn't use microscopically balanced cameras. That's what kept me from believing "a man can fly" in Superman. A man can shake rattle and roll in front of backgroud projection yes, fly no. It's also what ruins many old Bond films. And it doesn't stop there. The sound FX of the water pressure scream as the crew see the corpse of Stewart is just inspired. Again a downer is that the sound of motor failure was the looped "Batmobile engines start" sound + sound effect that was also used in the "Lost in space" and can be found on the Crescendo LIS CD-collection disc 6 track 50. Mentioning Batman and Pota: was the subway station set used in the Batman episode with False Face refurbished and reused for the subway station used in "Beneath the planet of the apes"? D.S.    Posted:   Jun 27, 2016 - 6:06 AM     By:   RoryR   (Member) Mentioning Batman and Pota: was the subway station set used in the Batman episode with False Face refurbished and reused for the subway station used in "Beneath the planet of the apes"? D.S. I'll have to get out my Batman Blu-rays and check it out.    Posted:   Jun 28, 2016 - 7:32 AM     By:   RoryR   (Member) Mentioning Batman and Pota: was the subway station set used in the Batman episode with False Face refurbished and reused for the subway station used in "Beneath the planet of the apes"? D.S. I'll have to get out my Batman Blu-rays and check it out. OK, I've checked it out and I'd say no. The two sets don't match, the subway platform is much higher in Beneath, and three years separates the two productions. I have to doubt a set from "Batman" would be left standing for three years. There are sets from "Land of the Giants," or at least elements from them, that were used in BENEATH (the airway tunnels), and a set from BENEATH, originally built for HELLO DOLLY!, that was used in "Land of the Giants," the Grand Central Station set.    Posted:   Jun 28, 2016 - 8:16 PM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) Beneath the POTA: Jupiter 2 landing gear ladders from Lost in Space are seen in the wreckage of Brent's ship.    Posted:   Aug 12, 2016 - 11:50 AM     By:   RoryR   (Member) This You Tube video is four years old, before the fate of the prop was revealed, but I just happened across it this morning and found it amusing.     Non-Film Score Discussion: The Ignominious Fate of Taylor's Spaceship    << < 1 2  >   Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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