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And no, we have no immediate plans to offer hi res downloads through specialty sites. Its not worth the cost. As stated before -- if you want that buy the cd, copy it and then resell it.
MV
You're....promoting copyright infringement of CDs you produce?
It is perfectly legal to buy a CD, copy the files to the computer for personal use, and resell the physical CD.
Lukas
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May 26, 2016 - 10:59 AM
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Mr. Popular
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(MV, consider this a love letter to your recent expansion of virtual releases.)
I just bought Goldsmith's expanded The Ghost and the Darkness.
You all know the drill. One of, if not the best, in what's Goldsmith's otherwise somewhat tedious output in the nineties. It's got strong themes, a stark, dark atmosphere and depth. All that and a rich orchestral an ethnic color. A Goldsmith as it should be.
I never got around to buy Intrada's expanded album. I mean, I liked the original release, but it never was on top of my playlist. Not even when I was in a Goldsmith mood. I can't say why. But still, I knew I would have to get the expansion one day. Goldsmith is one of these composers where a lot of times an expanded score gives the music the necessary room to breath. In a way that the music comes alive in a whole new way. Themes develop, atmosphere builds. And sometimes I had a hard time agreeing with Goldsmith own picks for a soundtrack album. So I knew The Ghost and the Darkness could harbor a treasure or two.
But still I haven't gotten around to buying it. It went in and out my shopping basket, always being bumped for something with more priority.
You can only spend a dollar once -- and even that costs me 90 eurocents. But with La-la's new steps in the virtual music market, something has changed -- for the better.
Getting the awesome music of The Ghost and the Darkness (NP) I had to fork over € 10,99. *Just* ten euro and ninety-nine cents. For 16-bit FLAC. At the *exact* same audio quality a cd would have got me.
Getting the score from Intrada would have const me $ 29,99, that's almost twenty-seven in euro's. Shipping it would have required € 12,15 extra. Or, to balance the costs, I would have bought five titles in total -- not more than five to avoid taxes -- the extra cost would be $ 4,30 per cd. The cost total would be a wee bit more than € 31,10.
Today I spend € 10,99 to get a score that I wanted.
So I saved 20 to 30 euro's. I miss out on something tangible, a booklet and, of course, liner notes. But those aren't worth the price of three extra score albums. Or two movie tickets. Or a quick meal and a beer. Or two. Not to mention the environmental impact of producing the cd and the jewel case, the packaging and the poisonous fumes these cargo ships are polluting our skies with that I did't contribute to.
I any case, I know there are reservations regarding virtual releases. Your bold move in virtual releasing more scores through the deal with Paramount saves me money, saves the planet *and* makes it far more easy to dive into score I might have missed out on.
Kudos for that. And many thanks.
Hey MV, see if you can get these up on Pono as 16/44, lossless downloads. I'll buy many of them. Pono has all major label releases up as lossless as well as most indie labels.
Just buy the cd from Intrada
MV
These means all the Paramount titles, MV. Sheesh. Also, I am in a thread asking for DIGITAL 16/44. If I wanted a CD, I'd be in a CD thread. If it's not that important to release these on a site that Tunecore and many other aggregators service, your call and I respect that. I just won't buy Itunes downloads and many labels will make sure all services get these releases to sell. Options are good. But hey...good work on getting that deal.
My point is that it's silly to talk about purchasing a hi res download when you can simply buy the cd (the best sound quality you are going to get for your buck) and get a fantastic booklet for just about the same price.
And no, we have no immediate plans to offer hi res downloads through specialty sites. Its not worth the cost. As stated before -- if you want that buy the cd, copy it and then resell it.
MV
Michael, I am not asking for high-res.
When you prep a title for Itunes or Amazon you send them the lossless files anyway. Most aggregators will push 16/44 lossless (CD quality, not high res) to all sites that want it. All I am asking is if the CD quality if going to be available via Pono or sites that offer CD quality lossless (what I assume you deliver your master files to various services anyway!) I am not asking for 24 bit even though that would be awesome and I understand the expense.
If delivering a standard lossless is too much or costly, great. Understood. But high res and CD quality 16/44 are two different things.
Also, again...why would I want to pay for a CD when I want lossless CD quality digitally delivered? That is another point. If I have to buy the CD, why are we even wasting time talking about downloads? I don't want compressed orchestra. I want the basic CD quality WITHOUT buying CDs.
No disrespect intended. Trying to make it clear what I am asking as there seems to be confusion.
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May 27, 2016 - 3:58 AM
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1977
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£19.95 for the FLAC lossless download of Logan's Run?! Either 7Digital is being greedy or the label :/
€ 10,99 in the Netherlands.
Edit: that's the original release, not the expanded edition. Strange that they picked such steed price.
In my country the price for Logan's Run (Deluxe Edition - same as FSM) is the equivalent of $2.57 and the regular edition is $1.93!!! In Euros its €2.30 and €1.73! That's according to today's exchange rate and based on the Google Play Store prices. iTunes is a bit more expensive but still way below the price of the physical CD.
I'd much rather pay almost an eighth of the price for the Deluxe Edition (EXCLUDING postage and customs), even if its lossy and has no cover art/insert notes. I can buy nearly 8 titles for the price of that one CD. I do already own the CD so for me the download is not an issue now, but had it been available at the time I would have jumped at it. Same goes for Gremlins. Lossless downloads would be great, but I'm not going to pay a ridiculous premium for them.
It would be awesome if PDFs of the notes and artwork could be made available for download too, even if only for titles that are now OOP in physical format.
I hope other studios and labels will get in on this soon, it seems to be the way things are going anyway. I have nothing against physical media, in fact I still love it, but economic realities speak louder than my personal preferences in this case.
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May 27, 2016 - 5:49 AM
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Solium
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It is perfectly legal to buy a CD, copy the files to the computer for personal use, and resell the physical CD.
Lukas
Well, in t ain't in the Netherlands – and I believe in most European countries. Are you sure, by the way? US copyright laws are usually more things than European, so it sounds a bit surprising.
We had a thread on this topic, and I believe several participants argued owning a copy of a sold cd is illegal by the letter of the law.
Hard to believe, but it's still illegal to rip CDs in the UK even for personal use. A government exception was overturned in 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33566933/ripping-music-and-films-illegal-again-after-high-court-overturns-new-law
Whether officers of the law will ever take action over it is a diferent matter.
(If any solicitors are reading this, I should point out that I only have recordings of my own whistling in my music library)
Seems to me that only applies to UK rights holders. UK recognizes international copy right laws, no? If you buy a CD produced in America you should be able to legally import it into iTunes or make a back up copy since that is permissible with the license.
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