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 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I think it's Leviathan and First Blood in that it's action music written by Jerry Goldsmith.
I can vaguely hear echoes of those two scores - though nothing specific - but I can also hear echoes of 20 other Goldsmith scores too.


It's okay if you don't recognize it Kev, but it's there and it's specific. The end of "Bloody Floor" contains a rearrangement and reworking of material from "Over the Cliff" and "Decompression."

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I don't know, man, I don't think you can call that last section I was referring to a rearrangement of Leviathan or First Blood, though I definitely hear what you're talking about for other sections of the cue. Rearrangement is more like Horner's opening cue from Courage Under Fire being streamlined and only slightly modified to fit the timing of the edits in Titanic (effective re-use there, though) or that one album cue from Lincoln we never listen to because it was clearly modeled after The Patriot theme. These pieces you highlight are similar because they're the same composer, but I wouldn't ever say rewrite or rearrangement.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I think I know what you're referring to. I can hear the Leviathan bit and Over the Cliff is similar at the end but not quite a direct quote I would say.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 12:42 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I think I know what you're referring to. I can hear the Leviathan bit and Over the Cliff is similar at the end but not quite a direct quote I would say.

Yeah definitely not a direct quote. For example "Over the Cliff" has a repeating phrase that ascends while "Bloody Floor" has a mirrored phrase that descends, but they are cut from the same cloth and to my ears are very much from the same template. That comparison is less obvious but "Decompression" is even closer, I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2017 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Guerilla attacks from me, Graham and Phelpsie! Thread reprisals, there will be.
TOTAL RECALL was enjoyable when it came out, but I never quite heard the magnum opus of action scores that most everyone else was falling about over.
Compared to real gems from him like THE CHAIRMAN, WIND & THE LION, TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING, BOYS FROM BRAZIL, CAPRICORN ONE, THE SWARM, OUTLAND, POLTERGEIST or THE CHALLENGE (Hell, even BREAKOUT, SALAMANDER or CABO BLANCO!!), Recall was like the death throes of his action scoring.
BASIC INSTINCT was fun for a few weeks, but I grew tired of it quite quickly and rarely play it these days.
HOLLOW MAN always sounded like third rate BASIC INSTINCT to me.
But we're very much in the minority about this smile


Other than one or two tracks Total Recall is torture on the ears with all that clanging and banging.


you'd better avoid listening to Logans-Run + Runaway then, they too have a lot of clanging, banging. wink

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2022 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

This doesn't necessarily mean what we all want it to, but in a Zoom session about Star Trek: The Motion Picture, today, Bruce Botnick referred to having "just finished revisiting The Hollow Man" score.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2022 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

This doesn't necessarily mean what we all want it to, but in a Zoom session about Star Trek: The Motion Picture, today, Bruce Botnick referred to having "just finished revisiting The Hollow Man" score.

I'm guessing Hollow Man for one of Varese's next clues. D:

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2022 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

…Bruce Botnick referred to having "just finished revisiting The Hollow Man" score.

DE pretty please. My favourite late career Goldsmith.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

The wait appears to be over.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Steven Lloyd   (Member)

The wait appears to be over.

Indeed it is. However, it won't be a Varese Club release, according to Roger Feigelson today: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8974

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Bless Roger... he's such a good guy he clearly wanted to save everyone from disappointment when the second recent Varese Club release in a row failed to be Hollow Man. smile

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Steven Lloyd   (Member)

Nice line, Yavar!

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Bless Roger... he's such a good guy he clearly wanted to save everyone from disappointment when the second recent Varese Club release in a row failed to be Hollow Man. smile

Yavar


Great news! Roger says it's one of Goldsmith's longest scores? How long is it? I'm surprised.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

ISO is less than 70 mins.. Lotsa alternates, maybe?

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Oh for sure, but not just that... I don't want to spoil Intrada's tracklist reveal so I'll just say: everybody will be extremely pleased and pleasantly surprised.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2022 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

^
Tantalizing.

 
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