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 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Will any of our awesome labels reissue these scores- possibly expanded? Does anyone have any information on the probability?

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Pretty sure that's all there is for these two scores, unless you wanted to add source music (looks at La La Land...) and the Connection album arrangement of the first film's theme.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0006SSPYO?ref=olp_product_details

$170 at Amazon!
I own the old FSM CD but would buy a remastering, there was also one cue missing for French Connection I. Perhaps they could use the stems for this with the modern mastering technology.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

I missed the FSM disc, but these both sound great on the Fox Blu-ray 5.1 isolated score tracks (complete, along with studio chatter). Seems like a no-brainer for reissue.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

Ordered! Oh, not yet? Ok then...Pre-Ordered as soon as announced!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Already have the FSM cd, but I'd be interested in a replacement score by Jay Z or Philip Glass.

I own the old FSM CD but would buy a remastering, there was also one cue missing for French Connection I.

What scene/screen time was missing from the first soundtrack? Btw, it has unused tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

I don't know what was missing from the CD but the Blu-ray track was sequenced the way Don Ellis originally spotted the film with all the music he recorded, plus source music. Friedken dropped and moved around many cues in the final mix.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Is the isolated score track from The French Connection in stereo? Most of the cues included on the FSM disc were monaural, and I was wondering if new sources had been found.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 9:45 PM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

The track is in Dolby Digital 5.1 and it all sounds like stereo to me. It seemed like a lot of the isolated scores on Fox Blu-rays of this era (The Robe, Sand Pebbles, Fantastic Voyage, Apes sequels etc.) had significant sonic improvements from their then-current CD incarnations.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I would buy this also. I think someone hinted at a reissue at some point but I don't remember which thread.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

I know ya'll hate vinyl, but I guarantee if these scores came out on vinyl- they would be gone quickly. The score is a grail among funk fans and DJ's would eat it up. Not to mention us non-DJ's.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I know ya'll hate vinyl, but I guarantee if these scores came out on vinyl- they would be gone quickly. The score is a grail among funk fans and DJ's would eat it up. Not to mention us non-DJ's.

Many of us LOVE vinyl.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I was excited about the prospect of an isolated score track for the first one, but I really don't think it sounds that much better than the archival Fox sound of the CD.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I just missed out on getting the FSM CD when it went OOP, and would love another shot at it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I just relistened to the FSM release for the first time in a while. Don't know why I'd put off the re-spin so long. It's great! And I say that it's great because it has something which many otherwise "good" soundtracks don't have. It's interesting. It's really interesting music. It's not "just" jazz or funk or avant garde, in fact it's impossible to pigeon-hole. It satisfies me on a musical level, but it stirs my brain cells too. Some people might find it a bit annoying even, but sometimes you have to verge on the annoying to be interesting. And I'm not talking about my posts.

Speaking of "interesting", I love how in those links to old André Previn interviews that are dotted around here, he'll say that something is "not interesting", or that he likes something because it's "really interesting music". Goldsmith for example, got the Previn seal of approval for being "interesting". And the Don Ellis scores are great on many levels, one being the "interesting" level.

By the way, the music that really stuck with me ever since I saw the film for the first time was, as is the case with many, the "Subway" track. What great music! Nearly a normal groove track, but it's almost like it's played badly, with some of the instruments lagging behind, just like Popeye Doyle puffing heavily as he runs through the streets, and just veering off-key. That's interesting to listen to! The liner notes state that the only master that could be found had the trumpet solo coming in towards the end. I've always wondered if that means that the same cue was used in the film but with the trumpet solo "removed", or "before it was overdubbed" or something. I know that the cues were chopped and changed a lot for the final version of the film, but do the liner notes mean that the music for that cue is actually heard in the film but without the trumpet? I was really familiar with the groove and the piano, which are prominent on their own before the trumpet, so I don't know if maybe it's only the pre-trumpet bit that's used in the film. Or is it actually the full piece in the film with the trumpet gone?

Sorry, I realise that I've expressed myself in a pathetic way. I don't even follow what I've just written. I don't even know if it's "interesting", but it is to me.

Oh, and more apologies. This is about a possible re-issue. I've just realised. I don't know if there'll be one or not. I hope there is, because if you haven't got this great music you're a nutmeg.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I just missed out on getting the FSM CD when it went OOP, and would love another shot at it.

that's what you get for picking your feet in Poughkeepsie.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2016 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

maybe it's just me, as usual...

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2016 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

If there ever is a French Connection I and II reissue, then there should also be one for Ellis' superb THE SEVEN UPS.

Don Ellis was always an "out there" musician. If anyone here but me has heard Ellis' trumpet work on George Russell's masterful album EZZ-THETICS (1961) then they wouldn't be surprised by the mindf_ck of a great listen those film scores are.

Yes, more Ellis reissues, please.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2016 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I was excited about the prospect of an isolated score track for the first one, but I really don't think it sounds that much better than the archival Fox sound of the CD.

It's just my nostalgia showing, but I love the harsh, dry sound of the mono Ellis stuff. If Popeye Doyle had to freeze his law-enforcing ass off outside eating cardboard NY pizza while the drug-dealing big shot fine dined in warmth then I can deal with a wee bit o'mono.

Of course sonic improvements are also welcome. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2016 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

...Most of the cues included on the FSM disc were monaural...

From the FSM site
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/186/French-Connection-French-Connection-II-The/

"...The sequel score is entirely in stereo; the original is mostly stereo with some mono cues. Sound quality is clear throughout and the booklet notes explain exactly where the deleted cues were meant to go."

 
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