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 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I couldn't find an actual thread for this film or score (there was a 1900 aka Novecento thread or two).
Anyway. I recently bought this CD after viewing the opening title sequence in another thread.
The music spoke to me in the way certain other Morricone titles have.
I can blow a bit hot and cold with Morricone scores, but the ones I like, I REALLY LIKE!
The copy that arrived is only the original Sony 57 minute edition (although it was a Japanese pressing, which is nice). TG had indicated that the expanded release contained some impressive missing music from the film.
After a quick blast through, I already adore the lengthy opening titles cue (The Legend Of The Pianist), plus track 9 (Child), 12 (2nd Crisis), 15 (Before The End), 19 (Silent Goodbye) and 20 (Ships and Snow). I also love track 1 (1900's Theme), but will reposition that at the end cos it's a much better finale track. The song is okay, but Roger Waters' limited singing abilities doesn't suit the melody for me (which is strange, cos I usually enjoy Waters' Pink Floyd songs).
So, another lovely EM score added to my collection.
What do others think (and how's the film...worth a watch?).

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I really like the film Kev, though I may be a bit biased as I love all Tornatore's work. I think this was his first English language film and for the most part it works pretty well. It got mixed reviews at the time of release though, if I remember. I love the score too, it gets repeated listens along with most of the other Morricone-Tornatore collaborations. I'm not that keen on the song either for whatever reason, I rarely listen to it.

I too have the original CD release, what expanded version do you speak of?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't really know Thomas.
In the other thread (where I discovered the music) TG mentioned another version with a scherzo track that was very memorable.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

La Leggenda del Pianista Sull'Oceano:
Italian release: Sony Music SK 60790 extended the original release by 19+ minutes, 8 tracks, also re-sequenced and renamed at least one track.

The extra 8 tracks include, I think, source cues: 3 piano pieces by Gilda Butta`, another two by Amedeo Tommasi, a vocal by James Sampson and:

- tr.15: The Goodbye Between Nineteen Hundred And Max 3'43" - Gianni Oddi, sax solo; and
- tr.9: Police - a 47" cue

See: http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9659/Leggenda+Del+Pianista+Sull%27Oceano%2C+La

Having gotten used to the original release I found the extended release a bit jarring and strangely have never taken to it as well. I know this is just a matter of change and a few more plays will leave me feeling this is the release.

But the James Sampson song is not worthwhile and as mentioned above the Roger Waters' song is a waste of a good tune.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hey, I LOVE the Roger Waters song, but then again I'm totally biased as a massive fan of his work.

I haven't seen this film in ages, but it's one of the very few Morricone soundtracks I own in physical format. Superb stuff, although that "sour" last note of the main theme is a disturbing "verfremdungs-effect" (intenationally so, of course, but still).

This is the kind of Morricone sound I love.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Blimey!
It was the Police track TG said was a must have!!!
All 47 seconds of it!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Is the film worth a watch? Oh, my YES!! Kev, please open up the URL below. I started a topic on the movie because you will find that one of the main characters in this movie or one of the protagonists in this move just happens to be the FILM SCORE. It is almost a breathing character. Please read.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=9735&forumID=1&archive=1

Besides my opening, you'll also get a lot of insight from other FSMers.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Thanks for the link Joan.
Some interesting thoughts in there.
I will search out the film to give it a watch on telly (more homework!!) wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I couldn't find an actual thread for this film or score (there was a 1900 aka Novecento thread or two).

Cut my heart out, throw it into the Cuisinart and hit the puree button why don't'cha!eek

Kev, please open up the URL below.

Ah, thanks Teach. A little FSDefibrillating saves the day.
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Blimey!
It was the Police track TG said was a must have!!!
All 47 seconds of it!!!



Quality, old horse, not quantity. And I stand by what I said smile. I'm a bit kinder about "Lost Boys Calling" than Mitch - and in the event that Thor is a Roger Waters completionist, he needs to know that there are different versions of the track on the two releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Is the film worth a watch? Oh, my YES!! Kev, please open up the URL below. I started a topic on the movie because you will find that one of the main characters in this movie or one of the protagonists in this move just happens to be the FILM SCORE. It is almost a breathing character. Please read.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=9735&forumID=1&archive=1

Besides my opening, you'll also get a lot of insight from other FSMers.



And as a bonus, I make an ass of myself right from the off!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

But Tall Guy, I hear you have a cute A$$. Also, your comments in that thread were really insightful. I just wish we'd come up with more examples of Music as a Character. LAURA and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS were wonderful examples.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

... I'm a bit kinder about "Lost Boys Calling" than Mitch - and in the event that Thor is a Roger Waters completionist, he needs to know that there are different versions of the track on the two releases.

Now that does surprise me (no, not the bit about you being less unkind ... smile): different versions on the two releases? I can't check as I sold the first first copy when I upgraded to the expanded release. However www.chimai.com suggests that the song featured on both releases, as well as on the compilation album We All Love Ennio Morricone, are the same.

Certainly I found - and do find - the song rather brain-numbing so did not distinguish the two recordings. At least on the compilation album it is not the least-interesting performance.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Wonderful score kev. Great film you will enjoy too.
And have a listen/must see to all the tornatore/ennio films - from malena to cinema p, his most fruitful and complimentary partnership since Leone.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Blimey!
It was the Police track TG said was a must have!!!
All 47 seconds of it!!!



Quality, old horse, not quantity. And I stand by what I said smile. I'm a bit kinder about "Lost Boys Calling" than Mitch - and in the event that Thor is a Roger Waters completionist, he needs to know that there are different versions of the track on the two releases.


I am a Roger Water completist, but I wasn't aware of that. Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

... I'm a bit kinder about "Lost Boys Calling" than Mitch - and in the event that Thor is a Roger Waters completionist, he needs to know that there are different versions of the track on the two releases.

Now that does surprise me (no, not the bit about you being less unkind ... smile): different versions on the two releases? I can't check as I sold the first first copy when I upgraded to the expanded release. However www.chimai.com suggests that the song featured on both releases, as well as on the compilation album We All Love Ennio Morricone, are the same.

Certainly I found - and do find - the song rather brain-numbing so did not distinguish the two recordings. At least on the compilation album it is not the least-interesting performance.

Mitch


It seems the two versions are from a three hour cut and a two hour cut of the film from 1998 and 1999. In the second one the words to the song were slightly amended from first to third person (or vice versa, can't recall off the top of my head) and a more prominent guitar solo from van Halen. It's a song that I like for lots of reasons, not least the particularly moving line "you never took us fishing, Dad, and now you never will" which resonates strongly with me. It might look like doggerel and indeed could be in the wrong hands, but with Waters's gruff and slightly nasal delivery and a perfect Morricone melody it's a piece of gold.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Many thanks, TG, for the analysis ... I don't recall the line (in any of the three recordings I have owned) - probably brain-dead by then smile - but I shall certainly listen out for it on my next play of either the extended OST or compilation album recordings. I haven't played either recording for well over 6mths.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

But Tall Guy, I hear you have a cute A$$. Also, your comments in that thread were really insightful. I just wish we'd come up with more examples of Music as a Character. LAURA and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS were wonderful examples.

That's quite enough about asses, thank you Joan!

I'd say Goldsmith's Omen uses the score as a character - not the rather awkward song (except where used as spooky underscore) but the Ave Satana stuff is the aural manifestation of Damian's DNA. But I don't want to dilute this Legend of 1900 thread, so perhaps any further discussion should be taken to the other thread...

One favourite scene from the film in point is the dancing piano with its cure for seasickness and hilarious denouement. Nice easy going piano accompaniment for that scene, not sure it's Morricone. Whilst the piano music is brilliant - especially the offkey nocturnal (or whatever it is) - the real highlights for me are grounded in the orchestra.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2016 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

I have the longer version of this soundtrack and aside from some annoying sequencing [I rarely understand why Morricone sequences many of his soundtracks the way he does] which I can nonetheless re-programme, this is a fantastic score and CD - the jazz tracks go so well with Morricone's stuff which really showcase his diversity. Not a huge fan of the song but I just programme it out.

A truly lovely film too, so unusual and poetic, and yet so few seem to know about it. It was heavily cut [not a new thing for Tornatore sadly] for its 'international release' and is so much richer in its original cut.

 
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