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 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   RobinEsterhammer   (Member)

Does anyone know why David Arnold wasn't asked back to score this one? I know that Emmerich has now a producing relationship with Kloser since 20,000 BC (wow, has it really been this long?), but did he really burn bridges with Arnold that badly over The Patriot (an utterly forgettable Williams score)?

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Perhaps he isn't interest. It is ID4: P2, after all.

But then again Emmerich has been using Kloser/Wanker for a number of films now, so perhaps he likes his new partnership, especially considering Kloser is doing more on the films than scoring: he's also been producing and/or writing on them.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I seem to vaguely recall some story about a falling out between the two. Did it have anything to do with THE PATRIOT, which Williams ended up scoring, perhaps? They haven't worked together since.

We still have the great Emmerich/Arnold triptych to enjoy, though -- STARGATE, ID4 and GODZILLA. Three brilliant scores!

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Does anyone know why David Arnold wasn't asked back to score this one? I know that Emmerich has now a producing relationship with Kloser since 20,000 BC (wow, has it really been this long?), but did he really burn bridges with Arnold that badly over The Patriot (an utterly forgettable Williams score)?

sorry while I liked the score to Independence Day by Arnold. I love the Patriot!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Mr. Big   (Member)

I prefer The Patriot to all of the Arnold/Emmerich scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Arnold was interested but never asked.

Sucks but there it is.

This new film indeed does have the wrong composer.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

This seems to be another thread about nothing.

Burned bridges? A falling out?

"He was interested but never asked?"

Who says?

Anyone wish to cite a source or a documented fact for any of the above?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 11:09 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

No.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

This seems to be another thread about nothing.

Burned bridges? A falling out?

"He was interested but never asked?"

Who says?

Anyone wish to cite a source or a documented fact for any of the above?


Follow David Arnold on Twitter.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2016 - 11:54 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

David Arnold was abducted by aliens.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

We still have the great Emmerich/Arnold triptych to enjoy, though -- STARGATE, ID4 and GODZILLA. Three brilliant scores!

Four. Although someone still HAS TO release Arnold's pilot score for THE VISITOR.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



Four. Although someone still HAS TO release Arnold's pilot score for THE VISITOR.


Quoted for Damned Truth.

It's my favorite David Arnold score, my favorite score of the Emmerich/Devlin/Arnold partnership, and still my favorite television score.

It's wonderful music and it deserves a release.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

We still have the great Emmerich/Arnold triptych to enjoy, though -- STARGATE, ID4 and GODZILLA. Three brilliant scores!

Four. Although someone still HAS TO release Arnold's pilot score for THE VISITOR.


Well yes, if you count producer credits. I don't believe Emmerich directed that pilot.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

More like wrong movie. This looks awful and will get the score it deserves as it tanks super hard.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

We still have the great Emmerich/Arnold triptych to enjoy, though -- STARGATE, ID4 and GODZILLA. Three brilliant scores!

Four. Although someone still HAS TO release Arnold's pilot score for THE VISITOR.


So agree. Amazing score for series.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   soundtrackmusic   (Member)

I don't think any Arnold score qualifies as "brilliant" though. There's a lot more than noise and thunder to make a score brilliant. Still, he would have been the more preferable pick in comparison to Kloser, whose music is just, well, blah. Is he even an educated composer? Probably, there are some ghosts involved.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oh, I have ZERO problem categorizing some of Arnold's best work as 'brilliant'. His golden period from the mid 90s to the mid 2000s stands alongside any other major composer of his generation. He's instantly recognizable (no, that's not only down to Dodd), and that's more than can be said of others who work in the same symphonic idiom! Too bad he seems more or less off the scene, though, especially as far as feature films are concerned.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Oh, I have ZERO problem categorizing some of Arnold's best work as 'brilliant'. His golden period from the mid 90s to the mid 2000s stands alongside any other major composer of his generation. He's instantly recognizable (no, that's not only down to Dodd), and that's more than can be said of others who work in the same symphonic idiom! Too bad he seems more or less off the scene, though, especially as far as feature films are concerned.

I totally agree with Thor.

He wasn't asked to score the film, period.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Do you know many producers that are successful composers? Me either. Kloser just happens to be friends with Emmerich.

This film is dead to me.

The relationship did end with The Patriot. Arnold was attached to the film in a word of mouth way with Emmerich and Devlin. Then an opening came up where Williams was available to do the film and like most filmmakers if Williams is available and wants to do your film its hard to say no and I think they didn't even tell Arnold until he found out through the grapevine he was fired. Williams did a great score, of course. Kloser is no Williams.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

More like wrong movie. This looks awful and will get the score it deserves as it tanks super hard.

Based on similar movies it will tank as hard as Force Awakens and Jurassic World.

 
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