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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2016 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

http://www.carterburwell.com/projects/Finest_Hours.shtml

Coming from Walt Disney Records, download only frown

Read the link to Burwell's site for an exceptionally honest writeup about the score. Sounds like about half of it was replaced for the film, but the album will contain most of what he wrote, even portions unused in the film.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2016 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Interesting read. And it certainly shows you why, with films costing what they do today, the action movie with characters is essentially a thing of the past.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2016 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

http://www.carterburwell.com/projects/Finest_Hours.shtml

Coming from Walt Disney Records, download only frown

Read the link to Burwell's site for an exceptionally honest writeup about the score. Sounds like about half of it was replaced for the film, but the album will contain most of what he wrote, even portions unused in the film.


Must admit that it doesn't really surprise me that a large part of his score got replaced, considering the current climate in film scoring. A shame though, cause Burwell is one of the most interesting composers around and I love it when he writes for a big orchestra with lots of percussion and brass.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2016 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Hmmmm.
Sounds similar to the BREAKDOWN situation Basil Poledouris endured some years back.
I wonder if La La are readying the triple CD as I type wink

If they're so concerned about the Chinese market, they should have scored it all with erhu or guan smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 3:13 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Wow! Gorgeous score, sounds like it came in a time warp from the 1970s or 1980s. Old-fashioned thematic, orchestral scoring. A nearly lost art form.

As I'm sure we all expected, the cues that the studio dumped, marked with a cross on the list below, are among the best, most gloriously epic pieces of the score. Meanwhile, the two re-scored cues, marked with a star, using Burwell's themes, but written by another composer to fit modern conventions, sound like every other score of the last ten years. Sigh.

I'm so glad we got all the dumped portions of the score, nearly a third of the cues on the album are rejected material.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AZ2P46W

1) MEETING MIRIAM
2) IT’S STARTING TO SNOW
3) PENDLETON JUMP
4) SPLIT +
5) LOST OUR LIGHTS
6) YOU DON’T HAVE TO COME BACK
7) I HOPE YOU DIDN’T KILL US +
8) VOLUNTEERS
9) THE 36500
10) THE BUCKET LINE
11) THAT MAN SHOULDN’T HAVE SENT THEM
12) CROSSING THE BAR *
13) PENDLETON PUSH +
14) WE’RE ALL ALONE +
15) FOUR MEN LOST
16) RESCUE *
17) BIG MAN, BIG SEA +
18) THE GOING DOWN +
19) SAFE HARBOR
20) HAUL AWAY JOE Performed by KODALINE

Music Composed by Carter Burwell
Published by Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP)
Produced by Carter Burwell

* Composed by Carter Burwell and Philip Klein
Published by Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP)/
Wonderland Music Company, Inc. (BMI)

+ Bonus Tracks not featured in film

“Haul Away Joe”
Arranged by Jason Boland, Vincent May,
Mark Prendergast, Stephen Garrigan
Published by B-Unique Music Limited,
Admin by Songs of Kobalt Music Publishing (BMI)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   RonaldBuk   (Member)

Very interesting article...
However, Burwell's score sounds really nice.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Burwell's got the best composer site by far. Score sounds good, too!

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Does anyone knows if there will be a physical CD? Even an on-demand-made?

And why great scores like this one don't get a proper CD release, while other unlistenable bullshits do!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well that's depressing on so many levels, but we kinda knew this for some time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yeah, this is discouraging, I am mixed, glad I read that post from Burwell, and not so glad. I had some small hopes for a straightforward old narrative movie, it sounded refreshingly non-comic book. Not sure I can make myself see it now, undecided.

That bit about "Bob Iger says China wants action movies" yesh, that is really depressing and it explains so much about the mess of movies these days.

Asia helped make Transformers Age of Extinction a monster billion dollar hit last year, and it is a terrible movie.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

"In a nice period touch, one of Sybert’s chief allies, the ship’s cook (Abraham Benrubi), croons the (relatively new at the time) Guys and Dolls number 'Sit Down, You’re Rockin’ the Boat' — a far more incisive musical element than Carter Burwell’s bombastic score." - Sheri Linden, The Hollywood Reporter, Jan. 18, 2016.

The fact that Burwell included this blurb on the page is a funny little middle finger to punctuate his thoughts about Iger and Gillespie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Good that six tracks on the album are from music not included in the film. However, what a depressing story about the changes in score needed to satisfy the Chinese market.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

"In a nice period touch, one of Sybert’s chief allies, the ship’s cook (Abraham Benrubi), croons the (relatively new at the time) Guys and Dolls number 'Sit Down, You’re Rockin’ the Boat' — a far more incisive musical element than Carter Burwell’s bombastic score." - Sheri Linden, The Hollywood Reporter, Jan. 18, 2016.

The fact that Burwell included this blurb on the page is a funny little middle finger to punctuate his thoughts about Iger and Gillespie.


I read that as being more of a big middle finger salute to Sheri Linden, who didn't know what she was writing about. I'm really looking forward to hearing this score. Burwell is one of the most original composers working today!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Just downloaded and it is an excellent score. Carter continues his strong run of form.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to hearing this score. Burwell is one of the most original composers working today!

You won't be disappointed! I'm a Burwell completist, with every one of his CDs, and this is among his best scores, with a gorgeous main theme.

I'd say the score it's closest to in his past is ROB ROY, in its epic, thematic, orchestral scope. It's frankly amazing to me that a score like this even got recorded by a big studio, though big chunks of it never made it in. It sounds way too good to be in a contemporary studio film. smile

The final ten minute cue is stunning, and this cue is another highlight:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Just downloaded and it is an excellent score. Carter continues his strong run of form.

I did the same. His best since ROB ROY.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2016 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Note that the link to Burwell's website seems to include cues that didn't make the album:

Sylbert Takes Charge
Beaching The Pendleton
Last Man Off

Unless they're on the album under different names...

I'm gonna compare the cues on his website with the album more carefully this weekend.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2016 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Listening to this on spotify now and I can see why a lot of it was tossed!
Who listens to film music like this anymore??
Well written. Thematic. It's like there's thought behind it!!
Was Burwell takin' the piss?

What a pity there's no CD proper frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2016 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Listening to this on spotify now and I can see why a lot of it was tossed!
Who listens to film music like this anymore??
Well written. Thematic. It's like there's thought behind it!!
Was Burwell takin' the piss?

What a pity there's no CD proper frown


The even greater pity is listening to this gorgeous score and realizing that Burwell and so many others were capable of delivering scores like this for countless major studio films over the last 20 years and have been held back.

I still think back to that (now pulled) clip of Patrick Doyle saying to a classroom of music students that Marvel forbade him from using (as I remember it) high strings and brass on THOR. So sad.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

Is this a release that could conceivably see a 1,000-piece edition from Varese?

 
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