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 Posted:   Mar 27, 2016 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Grecchus, I really appreciated your recollection. And whoever the hell bounder is - I have to laugh - when I said in my post I was 'profoundly affected', I meant that the film did what I believe George Stevens' would have wanted, let alone god, it strengthened my faith in the 'real' thing. (I know I'm stretching my highly subjective response to the film in Cinerama, but it helps when you've read 'Five Came Back' or seen the documentaries, 'George Stevens - A Film-maker's Journey' or 'From D-Day to Berlin'. Stevens' WWII experiences, especially spending weeks at the just-liberated Dachau, forever altered his life and approach to film. Personally, I believe GSET was the zenith of his desires to make meaningful use of his gifts and art after those harrowing times. Also, Max Von Sydow himself sums up the films most eloquently when he says, 'It was a failure, but a beautiful failure').

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2016 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I alway have to be amused when folks say the Varese sounds better - not sure how that's possible since, to my knowledge, they simply cloned the Ryko, exactly the way they cloned their release of Ryko's Promises, Promises and any other Ryko CD, i.e. they used Ryko's CD for their master.

Hey, I have great equipment and have spent most of my life recording. I a/b all releases very carefully - and even if Varese used the same masters, they still did some tweaking because there's a little more depth, fullness and volume to the Varese release. They dialled back some of the high end as well. I'll be listening to the Varese from now on as a result.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2016 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

One interesting fact about GSET is that the arrest of John the Baptist, for me the most dynamic scene in the film, was directed by Charlton Heston. Mind you, it doesn't quite match with the style of the rest of the film, but for some of us that's no great sin.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2016 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I alway have to be amused when folks say the Varese sounds better - not sure how that's possible since, to my knowledge, they simply cloned the Ryko, exactly the way they cloned their release of Ryko's Promises, Promises and any other Ryko CD, i.e. they used Ryko's CD for their master.


Hey, I have great equipment and have spent most of my life recording. I a/b all releases very carefully - and even if Varese used the same masters, they still did some tweaking because there's a little more depth, fullness and volume to the Varese release. They dialled back some of the high end as well. I'll be listening to the Varese from now on as a result.



I'm with Bob on this one, and he's usually right on the money with these a/b comparisons. The Varese is definitely more full-bodied.

Ray Faiola submitted one master, no doubt. But it may have been that Ryko tweaked it one way, and Varese another.

I've noticed this sort of thing before, where Colloseum/That's Entertainment issued Rozsa's 80th birthday concert conducted by Elmer Bernstein on CD in Europe, and Varese released the same program with a more dynamic sound as "Miklos Rozsa: Hollywood Legend" on CD in the U.S.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2016 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I alway have to be amused when folks say the Varese sounds better - not sure how that's possible since, to my knowledge, they simply cloned the Ryko, exactly the way they cloned their release of Ryko's Promises, Promises and any other Ryko CD, i.e. they used Ryko's CD for their master.

Hey, I have great equipment and have spent most of my life recording. I a/b all releases very carefully - and even if Varese used the same masters, they still did some tweaking because there's a little more depth, fullness and volume to the Varese release. They dialled back some of the high end as well. I'll be listening to the Varese from now on as a result.



I felt that about the re-issue of 'Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex'. I didn't A/B it, but it sounded richer in the basses.

 
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