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Earth is round. Water is wet. Donald Trump is racist. 
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Monty Norman gonna sue yo ass!
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Yes, I said "is".
TG, I agree, except I'd say "was."
Hearing any John Barry Bond score, even a snippet, and sometimes even a snippet from a non-Bond Barry, conjures up in my mind images of Connery and Moore as 007. But I never see Daniel Craig. The character changed quite a lot, and the feel of the films too. A James Bond film now isn't like one of the old ones. One of the old ones scored by John Barry. That's why I think I'd say "was." Your honour, those are the facts as presented for the jury who, after all, is (are?) as thick as a boarding-house sandwich.
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Yes, I said "is".
Of course. 
No, "was." Which is why James Bond now has no soul.
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Oct 4, 2015 - 4:11 AM
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Tall Guy
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Yes, I said "is".
TG, I agree, except I'd say "was."
Hearing any John Barry Bond score, even a snippet, and sometimes even a snippet from a non-Bond Barry, conjures up in my mind images of Connery and Moore as 007. But I never see Daniel Craig. The character changed quite a lot, and the feel of the films too. A James Bond film now isn't like one of the old ones. One of the old ones scored by John Barry. That's why I think I'd say "was." Your honour, those are the facts as presented for the jury who, after all, is (are?) as thick as a boarding-house sandwich.
Graham, let me present a case to you for consideration. Sure the Bond films aren't what they were. They haven't been "what they were" since the 60s, and one by one the elements that made up the originals - Connery, Saltzman & Broccoli, Young, Adam, Binder, Barry - have fallen away, to be replaced by people who by and large do their best to maintain a certain feel, a certain quality. How hit and miss these have been depend on your preferences and also your age. To several of my colleagues down the years, Roger Moore is the Bond standard, and Connery's films are seen as old-fashioned, serious clichés.
The current Bond isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the next one might be. It's all a set of nuances on a basic premise - a British spy who doesn't do a lot of spying, but who does get into sticky situations and makes it out with some fisticuffs and a girl.
But when the producers want to leave you with something exciting to make you want to go and see the new film, regardless of whether you liked the last three or not, something to encapsulate the Bond experience, to give people like my good friend Mitch the nagging feeling that they should perhaps shell out and go to the cinema to see it after all, what do they use? What is it that sees out all the trailers released so far for SPECTRE to give you that final, all-embracing reminder of the enjoyment you've derived from the films of any era from the 60s onwards? You KNOW what.
The defence rests.
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What is it that sees out all the trailers released so far for SPECTRE to give you that final, all-embracing reminder of the enjoyment you've derived from the films of any era from the 60s onwards? You KNOW what.
Ah! The Monty Norman tune? (Sound of boarding-house sandwich crashing to the ground along with heavy-handed attempt at humour.)
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Oct 4, 2015 - 8:31 AM
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MusicMad
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TG, you do me the honour of naming me as an example ... but most others will be bored with my repetitive complaints about the present JB007 incarnation / style.
To set the record straight, however, (should anyone be interested): I love the JB007 films and have done so for most of my life. In that I'm not alone. Further, I rate nearly all films I watch (I'm a list geek!) but whereas I use the IMDb rating of 1 - 10 for all films ... JB007, by their very nature, start at 5. That is ... until Skyfall.
I wasn't mad about the re-boot but I do feel Casino Royale (2006) is a much better film than Die Another Day ... which had taken the unwanted title of worst film to date at that point. But worst still means good, entertaining fun for me and I rate it 5 ... way above many other non-JB007 films.
I think Daniel Craig was excellent ... he was good in the follow-up but I just wish the script had been JB-James Bond rather than JB-Jason Bourne (and there were a number of other problems, too.)
In Skyfall he plays James Bond ... but only for about 50% of his on-screen time. So much of the rest of the film is just not JB007 for me.
Which brings me to TG's thread: we see the teasers and now the official trailer. So much of it is reminiscent of the last film (with a few scenes copied from earlier films) that for the first time in my life I'm not excited about a new JB007 film. Perhaps I'm now alone ...
But if there is one thing which will get me interested and make me think, yes, this is still JB007 even if it looks and otherwise sounds like something else ... it's that John Barry - James Bond sound. For many others the opening notes of John Williams' iconic theme to Star Wars (and a few years ago: Indiana Jones) will have the same effect. It may lead to disappointment when the product isn't as good as the imagination had created (refer back to Star Wars I - III and Indiana Jones IV) but the calling tune is the best bet the producers have of attracting a disgruntled fan.
Mitch
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you know that bit is 100% John Barry.... 