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I never saw it before. Does anybody know what they died of?
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That scene in Beneath The Planet Of The Apes appeared as a black & white "vision" as Brent was brought before the mutants.
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The kids aren't dead, just lying down after doing a version of "Ring Around The Rosies" with a 40th century, post nuclear war twist. The scene was shot and meant to be in the film as Brent is lead out of the church to be interrogated. The children sang, "Ring-a Ring O'neutrons. A Pocketful of Positrons. A Fission! A Fission! We All Fall Down!" I guess in the editing this came across as somewhat silly satire, so it remains as a silent telepathic vision being projected by the mutant leader, Mendez, in the movie's final cut.
Good info, thanks. Also, it's good to know that the finished film wasn't as bad as it could have been.
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Starting with the first sequel, it was pretty clear that the POTA franchise was making it up as they went along. Continuity errors, impossibilities, and lame story ideas showed up pretty fast.
BENEATH had a wonderfully eerie quality, but too much "It's sci-fi, so anything goes" implausible junk crept in from the start.
ESCAPE relied on the impossible (raising and launching the sunken spacecraft, and reversing the voyage through time), but it was too good an idea to pass up. It was kind of like STAR TREK IV, in that time travel was used to set the story in a real place that the broader, non-sci-fi audience wanted to see.
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Sep 23, 2015 - 7:47 AM
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Starting with the first sequel, it was pretty clear that the POTA franchise was making it up as they went along. Continuity errors, impossibilities, and lame story ideas showed up pretty fast.
BENEATH had a wonderfully eerie quality, but too much "It's sci-fi, so anything goes" implausible junk crept in from the start.
ESCAPE relied on the impossible (raising and launching the sunken spacecraft, and reversing the voyage through time), but it was too good an idea to pass up. It was kind of like STAR TREK IV, in that time travel was used to set the story in a real place that the broader, non-sci-fi audience wanted to see.
I'm one of the few it seems that agree with Charlton Heston -- the original film required no sequel, and as it turned out, never should have had one let alone a series of them. It all ended up cheapening the concept. I know there are APES fans that wouldn't be fans if not for the sequels, and Fox is sure glad it's had and is still enjoying a money-making franchise, but I really, really wish they'd left the original movie alone.
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Starting with the first sequel, it was pretty clear that the POTA franchise was making it up as they went along. Continuity errors, impossibilities, and lame story ideas showed up pretty fast.
BENEATH had a wonderfully eerie quality, but too much "It's sci-fi, so anything goes" implausible junk crept in from the start.
ESCAPE relied on the impossible (raising and launching the sunken spacecraft, and reversing the voyage through time), but it was too good an idea to pass up. It was kind of like STAR TREK IV, in that time travel was used to set the story in a real place that the broader, non-sci-fi audience wanted to see.
I'm one of the few it seems that agree with Charlton Heston -- the original film required no sequel, and as it turned out, never should have had one let alone a series of them. It all ended up cheapening the concept. I know there are APES fans that wouldn't be fans if not for the sequels, and Fox is sure glad it's had and is still enjoying a money-making franchise, but I really, really wish they'd left the original movie alone.
The original is a classic. The rest are guilty pleasures to varying degrees.
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The original is a classic. The rest are guilty pleasures to varying degrees.
I didn't mind getting a second look at Linda Harrison as Nova. I'm gonna tell you that much right now.
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Talk about "it's all science fiction so do whatever you want" time travel fig leave, the first one started with a time travel and he came to a planet ruled by apes!
To be fair, the first one had a crew in suspended animation who only went forward through time, which we're all doing anyway. Also, more time passed on Earth than in the ship because the ship's speed caused a relativity-based time dilation. It's all very plausible as sci-fi goes.
ESCAPE is a different ballgame. They somehow go backward through time, a much bigger hurdle even given Dr. Hasslein's theories. The point being, movie-wise it's a great idea, but the science isn't there.
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