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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2015 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

It's about the harshest form of living there is - one in which total self-sufficiency has to be embraced with ultimate competence. The conviction of self-belief has to be wired in without any gaps in the logic. It's as hard and as simple as that.

Why would JG not like the picture? It didn't follow a stereotype. Johnson has nothing but walls to climb throughout and it doesn't get any easier.

And at the end of the story what are we faced with? There's a well known saying which sums up JJ, but I'm not going to cheapen things by wringing it out here. smile




 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

It's that well worn saying about life and it's ultimate reward. Something for which the fate of Hatchet Jack needs little introduction.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

[Jeremiah has just killed a Crow warrior who has been stalking him]

Del Gue
"Is it always like this? One at a time?"

Jeremiah Johnson
"Yep."

Del Gue
"Lucky they were Crow. Apache would have sent fifty at once."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Jerry loved genre pictures, fantasy, sci-fi and horror. And as a composer, that seems like a logical choice, because at least at one time there was a great deal of liberty to score those movies with an abundance of music, and music that could be at the forefront of the soundfield and also complex and interesting. Those movies provided excellent scoring potentials. Now a good percent of those genre movies are probably not excellent motion pictures, but I would never trade off the great scores we got from Jerry for scoring something else instead.

Beltrami is following the same path, because it grants him great scoring possibilities.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

Last time I saw it was about 10 years ago. It just never did it for me. I can't even put my finger on why. Didn't particularly enjoy it. Wasn't particularly impressed by it. Didn't find it memorable. In fact the reason I saw it more than once is because I wasn't sure until I was well into it if I had already seen it or not. Turned out I had and it was just as mediocre as the last time. Not bad. Just mediocre.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

Why did Goldsmith think that the movie JEREMIAH JOHNSON sucked?

Anyone hear that interview where Goldsmith was talking about how he was on a International flight and director Sydney Pollack just happened to be on the same flight?

Anyway it's a pre- MASADA story and this was back around the time of JEREMIAH JOHNSON which was directed by Syd Pollack. MASADA the Mini-Series had not been made at that point, and at that time Sydney Pollack was in the process of producing and directing I believe, the project. It was a project that Goldsmith definitely wanted to score totally interested in the Jewish subject matter and story, but he was apprehensive about approaching Pollack to discuss his interest. Anyway Goldsmith said that the flight just happened to be showing Pollack's film JEREMIAH JOHNSON which he said he "hated." He might have even said he thought it was dreadful.

So I'm wondering, was it just a matter of personal taste? I always thought JEREMIAH JOHNSON was kind of cool.

Any thoughts? What do you think of JEREMIAH JOHNSO? I had the old LP Soundtrack and really liked the John Rubinstein score.

We all know what happened years later with MASADA, which ultimately had no Pollack involvement at all.


Sound like an interesting anecdote. But I would be interested to read the interview itself because it may not have gone this way at all. Lots of nothing to go on.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Jerry loved genre pictures, fantasy, sci-fi and horror. And as a composer, that seems like a logical choice, because at least at one time there was a great deal of liberty to score those movies with an abundance of music, and music that could be at the forefront of the soundfield and also complex and interesting. Those movies provided excellent scoring potentials. Now a good percent of those genre movies are probably not excellent motion pictures, but I would never trade off the great scores we got from Jerry for scoring something else instead.

Beltrami is following the same path, because it grants him great scoring possibilities.


Very well put.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)



Sound like an interesting anecdote. But I would be interested to read the interview itself because it may not have gone this way at all. Lots of nothing to go on.


My feelings too.

BTW the idea that Goldsmith had bad taste sucks to me. Hundreds of films are brought to you and most are not too good. Some middling ones have potential and you tend to go for that. Also back in the day, and even now, you sign up for the film before it is finished. So you tend to go for associations with directors, producers or actors you have worked with in the past. For instance one of the worst films he did was PLAYERS. But when Robert Evans, head of the studio, asks that is something else. And even then the idea excited and inspired him. A film about tennis! If done right you can have another THE NATURAL. The film sucked but the score was great! So he made the right decision for himself and even us.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

DP

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Philmscore   (Member)



BTW the idea that Goldsmith had bad taste sucks to me. Hundreds of films are brought to you and most are not too good. Some middling ones have potential and you tend to go for that. Also back in the day, and even now, you sign up for the film before it is finished. So you tend to go for associations with directors, producers or actors you have worked with in the past. For instance one of the worst films he did was PLAYERS. But when Robert Evans, head of the studio, asks that is something else. And even then the idea excited and inspired him. A film about tennis! If done right you can have another THE NATURAL. The film sucked but the score was great! So he made the right decision for himself and even us.



Well, he did PATTON... SAND PEBBLES... THE OMEN... STAR TREK TMP... THE BLUE MAX... ALIEN... LONELY ARE THE BRAVE... PLANET OF THE APES... TORA!TORA!TORA... POLTERGEIST... UNDER FIRE...

all pretty damn good films, so I would not dare to say Jerry Goldsmith's taste sucked. He did not always choose the greatest projects, but he worked on many fantastic films.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Why did Goldsmith think that the movie JEREMIAH JOHNSON sucked?

Anyone hear that interview where Goldsmith was talking about how he was on a International flight and director Sydney Pollack just happened to be on the same flight?

Anyway it's a pre- MASADA story and this was back around the time of JEREMIAH JOHNSON which was directed by Syd Pollack. MASADA the Mini-Series had not been made at that point, and at that time Sydney Pollack was in the process of producing and directing I believe, the project. It was a project that Goldsmith definitely wanted to score totally interested in the Jewish subject matter and story, but he was apprehensive about approaching Pollack to discuss his interest. Anyway Goldsmith said that the flight just happened to be showing Pollack's film JEREMIAH JOHNSON which he said he "hated." He might have even said he thought it was dreadful.

So I'm wondering, was it just a matter of personal taste? I always thought JEREMIAH JOHNSON was kind of cool.

Any thoughts? What do you think of JEREMIAH JOHNSO? I had the old LP Soundtrack and really liked the John Rubinstein score.

We all know what happened years later with MASADA, which ultimately had no Pollack involvement at all.


Sound like an interesting anecdote. But I would be interested to read the interview itself because it may not have gone this way at all. Lots of nothing to go on.


It was an audio interview and it may very well be in the body of the Television Interview by Jon Burlingame. I'll have to go back to that and see. I have it recorded somewhere.

 
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