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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2015 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I own the original recording, the Conlon and the McNeely. However, I'd buy a Tadlow recording in a heartbeat...


PLEASE, there are already three recordings out there of the complete score or something close to it (Conlon, McNeely, the Varese Muir Mathieson tracks), plus a PLETHORA of recordings of excerpts on other labels by other conductors. There is no reason for Tadlow to record another VERTIGO. The score is out there EN MASSE. And please don't bring up that "Well, there are 20 new recordings a year of Beethoven's Fifth per year." That's really not the point. This is film music, which has a lower amount of followers than classical music.

Be gald you get what you get. When some release of a re-recorded or expanded title doesn't quite meet your standards, don't ask for yet ANOTHER recording; instead focus your eyes on some much more useful suggestions about something that REALLY needs revising, or something that's NEVER been out there

If I had my way, I'd rather see unreleased scores whose masters were lost, receive new recordings.

For instance, in the case of Herrmann, instead of yet another VERTIGO, I'd rather see a complete ENDLESS NIGHT recording (original ((if it exists)) or re-recording), which has never had even one track released from this fine score. It is a totally unreleased score, yet would it sell? I don't know. I'm sure that is the question that Kritzerland, La-La-Land, Intrada, etc. are up against every day.

My main plea is... get this unreleased stuff out there before doing ANOTHER recording of something we already have.

Great labels like Tadlow have only so much money (which I suspect is extremely tight, and running lower every day), so why should they do something that's already out in so many versions? Do something no one has already done!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Good Points Jim. Most folks like myself tend to be carried away with wishful thinking. What somebody needs to do is re-issue the Conlon recording and have it indexed by tracks and remaster it bit. Its OOP and needs to be re-presented (It should suffice unless some one decides to do VERTIGO as definitive recording)

But I agree that there should be other Herrmann projects more deserving of the premier recordings. I had forgotten about ENDLESS NIGHTS and I'm curious about it too. THE BRIDE WORE BLACK is another that deserves attention and perhaps someday the complete JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH.


 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:18 AM   
 By:   rjc   (Member)

I'm good with what we have for VERTIGO, though I'd still be there for a new recording and/or Varèse or another label revisiting the OST.

I rarely play the McNeely, though I like it now more than I used to. The ostinato in "Scottie Tails Madeleine" is too quick, and robs that sequence of its mystery (regardless of original tempi or not). "Farewell and the Tower" is also missing that tense, hesitant string build right after the final love theme statement (as James Stewart rushes to the church door). And as with the Conlon, "The Nightmare" is what I've always assumed to be Herrmann's concert arrangement, and I think the slightly shorter take for the OST has more dramatic punch.

I'll always go for Mathieson and the OST or the Conlon before the McNeely.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I'm good with what we have for VERTIGO, though I'd still be there for a new recording and/or Varèse or another label revisiting the OST.

I rarely play the McNeely, though I like it now more than I used to. The ostinato in "Scottie Tails Madeleine" is too quick, and robs that sequence of its mystery (regardless of original tempi or not). "Farewell and the Tower" is also missing that tense, hesitant string build right after the final love theme statement (as James Stewart rushes to the church door). And as with the Conlon, "The Nightmare" is what I've always assumed to be Herrmann's concert arrangement, and I think the slightly shorter take for the OST has more dramatic punch.

I'll always go for Mathieson and the OST or the Conlon before the McNeely.


I'll just add that the McNeely version was more according to Hermann's original notation.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2016 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

JAMES CONLON conducts
Recorded in the Studios of
Radio France, Paris 1998

This is the reference recording IMO. Very much worth having. The cue entitled "Scene d'amour" is quite possibly the most passionate bit of scoring I've ever heard.

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The cue entitled "Scene d'amour" is quite possibly the most passionate bit of scoring I've ever heard.

Too bad Conlon plays it faster than just about anyone.

Excepting, of course, Bernard Herrmann in the original scoring sessions...

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I also have, and treasure, the Conlon recording. The sound isn't as clean as the McNeely recording, but it is still quite good, but Conlon's performance is very Herrmannesque, even if he does use some of Mathieson's changes. The single-tarck presentation on disc is annoying, but I used a guide similar to the one above to cut the single track into the individual cues. Of course, the Feature Film book (which is a pretty lame approximation of the original exhibit) can get expensive nowadays, making this recording hard to find. It would be nice to have a decent, properly indexed release of this recording.

Most of the time, it's the Conlon recording I'm listening to, but I think they're all worthwhile.


Well gentlemen, on your sayso (with that of others) the Conlon will be my purchase. Key word for me has always been performance. That trumps most other considerations. But we do seem to have an embarrassment of riches to choose from. And threads.wink Should always be this way.

 
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