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Aug 20, 2015 - 10:47 AM
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CCW1970
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My brother & sister-in-law saw them back in 2012 and I asked him to take note of anything they played from the 1st 3 albums. He said it was all Perry-era stuff.
My God, what a wasted opportunity to sneak in "Kohoutek" or "Spaceman". 
If they're not sharing a stage with two other bands and they play a longer set, they'll throw in something from Eclipse or Generations, but otherwise, it's "Perrytown" all the way, from "Any Way You Want It" to "Separate Ways" and everything in-between. The encore is always "Open Arms."
I should add the Jan Hammer–Journey connection extends to the two albums Neal & Jan recorded in the early '80s called Untold Passion and Here To Stay. Those are great rock records. Neal took one song and rerecorded it for Journey's Generations years later (I forget which). Between the two S/H albums, there are four or five instrumentals. Here's one called "Arc" (from Untold Passion).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpEUR6QeFtI
When they played at the Hollywood Bowl with the LA Phil back in late June, Journey did perform some Infinity songs they almost never do live: "Winds of March," "Patiently" and "Opened the Door." Granted, it's not the cool instrumental prog pre-Perry stuff. But, those songs are more complex than the typical Journey arena pop rock song, especially with a live orchestra. Incidentally, "Open Arms" was early in the first half of that concert.
Also, Jan Hammer performed on a track, appropriately named "Schon & Hammer Now," from Neal Schon's recent double album Vortex:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJu8A4ADJKY
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I can't see what this guy is writing.
I guess I have him on ignore.
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Aug 20, 2015 - 12:57 PM
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drop_forge
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Why didn't he do big in the 90s and beyond, when a composer like Hans Zimmer did so well, a guy clearly using a couple of tricks from the Hammer songbook?
Limited composing range, inability to evolve his style? There were dozens, maybe hundreds of talented composers of electronic but also symphonic music.
Oh, you didn't think, he can make it into the new millennium with some Fairlight synthesizer, right?
Jan has plenty of moola. The thing he doesn't do is work with an orchestra, which is what Hollywood requires nowadays. It's not the '80s, where a guy with just a few synths will be hired to score a film (even Basil Poledouris went that route with No Man's Land). Even Junkie XL and other guys have larger expectations to meet. Maybe Mark Snow (who does mainly TV) can make a living consistently doing electronic scores (Blue Bloods), but he still evokes an orchestra with it. That was never Jan's approach to scoring. His is and was "instrumental rock" and I like it that way.
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I've been on the lookout for the Chancer theme for ages, it's not even on youtube, but a short clip is here:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chancer-theme-from-the-central-television-series-mw0000934668
Tracks 2 and 3 are Eurocops.
What tracks on Drive were from Chancer?
Tracks:
Capital News
Up Or Down (I think. I'll try and remember to check when I get home)
The "Father's Theme" turned up somewhere but I can't recall why or how. it may have been a flexi or Christmas Mp3 that got sent to online newsletter recipients.
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Hammer was the hottest composer alive in the mid 80s
That's a good one!
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I've been on the lookout for the Chancer theme for ages, it's not even on youtube, but a short clip is here:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chancer-theme-from-the-central-television-series-mw0000934668
Tracks 2 and 3 are Eurocops.
What tracks on Drive were from Chancer?
Tracks:
Capital News
Up Or Down (I think. I'll try and remember to check when I get home)
The "Father's Theme" turned up somewhere but I can't recall why or how. it may have been a flexi or Christmas Mp3 that got sent to online newsletter recipients.
I thought Capital News was from Capital News?
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Hammer was the hottest composer alive in the mid 80s
That's a good one!
I guess you didn't notice. Probably busy drinking.
Or listening to Franz Friedhoffer.
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I've been on the lookout for the Chancer theme for ages, it's not even on youtube, but a short clip is here:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chancer-theme-from-the-central-television-series-mw0000934668
Tracks 2 and 3 are Eurocops.
What tracks on Drive were from Chancer?
Tracks:
Capital News
Up Or Down (I think. I'll try and remember to check when I get home)
The "Father's Theme" turned up somewhere but I can't recall why or how. it may have been a flexi or Christmas Mp3 that got sent to online newsletter recipients.
I thought Capital News was from Capital News?
I thought Capital News was used in the first episode of Chancer, during the early scenes at the traders. i could be wrong about that. It's not a track I like. Up or Down is definitely from Chancer and was used a number of times as an end credit theme.
The Jeff Beck track from Who Else; Even Odds. Part of it sounds similar to the theme used in the Season 2 Miami Vice episode "The Fix", as Judge Ferguson is approaching Pagone's boat, to kill him. That short burst of music was never used again in a Miami Vice episode.
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Hammer was the hottest composer alive in the mid 80s
That's a good one!
I guess you didn't notice. Probably busy drinking.
Or listening to Franz Friedhoffer.
Your taste in music is almost uniquely poor (your profile reads like a "who's crappy in film music"). No wonder you have everything in life upside down.
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Hammer was the hottest composer alive in the mid 80s
That's a good one!
I guess you didn't notice. Probably busy drinking.
Or listening to Franz Friedhoffer.
Your taste in music is almost uniquely poor (your profile reads like a "who's crappy in film music"). No wonder you have everything in life upside down.
If you believe I will accept musical recommendations from an old booze head like you, then I have to disappoint you.
You asked some people to "get a life" on the other forum. You may have to consider that yourself.
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I'd strongly disagree with his suggestion that Hammer was the "hottest composer alive" at any point in time, but Hammer did have a huge breakthrough with Miami Vice.
Well, he entered the top spots of the hit lists wth Miami Vice Theme and Crockett's Theme. That's what I meant with "hottest composer".
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