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Aug 2, 2015 - 1:47 PM
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Mike_J
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I have to say I'm rather intrigued about all the controversies about the new FF movie and I can't wait to see if the film turns out to be rubbish, as is the groundswell of opinion at the moment it seems, or if it actually comes good.
Personally I'd love it to be great but at the moment nothing I've seen even remotely gets me rooting for this film.
I really don't care that Johnny Storm is now African-American or that the team are a bunch of youngsters. I can even get past the fact that Jamie Bell seems hopelessly miscast as Ben Grimm.
And certainly I thought Trank's first movie Chronical was superb - actually saw it twice at the cinema I enjoyed it so much.
But the trailers are uniformly dull, dull, dull. It looks incredibly studio-bound and very limited in scope. Say what you will about the Tim Story FF movies but at least they got into the outside world, in daylight. It looks like a TV movie, and not a very expensive one either. And don't even get me started on th fact that, yet again, they seem to have got the Thing wrong.
Now I accept that Fox may have been holding back with the trailers and thee may be some absolutely stunning action set pieces in the finished movie. But the fact they have put an embargo on any reviews right up to the point of release in North America (somewhat pointless given the film opens theatrically in France on Tuesday) does not bode well.
I'll try and keep an open mind but for now, colour me unexcited.
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I enjoyed the first two movies, they were bright & breezy & colourful & fun. I don't know what the new one is going to be like.
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I think there's a lot of showings today, so some online reviews should start coming in.
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Roger Corman should re-do his FF film using all the live actor footage and upgrade the bad efx with current CGI. 
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Aug 4, 2015 - 10:33 AM
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Ado
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A couple things.
You notice that the director, Josh Trank has not been in the press at all this week.
The producer Simon Kinberg was sent out to do some interviews and talk it down. It is really obvious between Trank being removed from directing duties on a future Star Wars movie, to not showing up in Anaheim, and not running any press - that Fox has shut this guy down completely.
I think that the worse the pre-release hate is the better. for Fox. If the film is marginal, or grade C, when the expectation are that it is a complete disaster, people go see it and think "it was way better than I thought". If there was no pre release rumor about all the production trouble and disasters then people would see the movie and be really disappointed, but the pre-release negative talk, if anything, only helps Fox - unless it is stunningly bad. The fact is that for most movie goers in the US, a mediocre movie is often regarded as 'pretty good'. Last year saw some really mediocre movies, or worse, make a whole lot of money. So if the worst condition of FF is that it is stitched together mediocrity, then it is hardly a disaster. Other than Mission Impossible, or further back, Ant Man, there is probably audience to go see a mediocre action movie, so they might get lucky with the calendar on this one, whereas a few months ago it would be barely a blip.
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Aug 4, 2015 - 12:00 PM
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Solium
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A couple things.
You notice that the director, Josh Trank has not been in the press at all this week.
The producer Simon Kinberg was sent out to do some interviews and talk it down. It is really obvious between Trank being removed from directing duties on a future Star Wars movie, to not showing up in Anaheim, and not running any press - that Fox has shut this guy down completely.
I think that the worse the pre-release hate is the better. for Fox. If the film is marginal, or grade C, when the expectation are that it is a complete disaster, people go see it and think "it was way better than I thought". If there was no pre release rumor about all the production trouble and disasters then people would see the movie and be really disappointed, but the pre-release negative talk, if anything, only helps Fox - unless it is stunningly bad. The fact is that for most movie goers in the US, a mediocre movie is often regarded as 'pretty good'. Last year saw some really mediocre movies, or worse, make a whole lot of money. So if the worst condition of FF is that it is stitched together mediocrity, then it is hardly a disaster. Other than Mission Impossible, or further back, Ant Man, there is probably audience to go see a mediocre action movie, so they might get lucky with the calendar on this one, whereas a few months ago it would be barely a blip.
My line of thought was similar. The prepress is so bad, I wonder if it might actually have a great opening weekend because everyone wants to see the "disaster", so they can make fun of it afterwards. Much like "50 Shades Of Grey".
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