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 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I have just finished this, as a result of this thread's reminder. And I still find it somewhat of a yawn fest. Long stretches of nothing much, rumbles and such. I was tired by the time it finished. Back in the draw then.

I'm not one to complain about Horner's self borrowing, but its starts out with BBTS, then goes into Enemy at the Gates with a good helping of Braveheart. It doesn't even offer a new classic western theme. It needed a hook, something that gives it its own identity and bridges the score. Sadly its not there.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

There are several themes in Horner's Mag Seven. Yep, he does his usual borrowing, but he also introduced a slow sorrowful theme and a nice rousing theme. I really like Faraday's Ride from the 2:50 minute onwards. Bernstein's signature rhythms from the original score are often employed by the percussions.



 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I've always had a soft spot for this one, myself.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

There are several themes in Horner's Mag Seven. Yep, he does his usual borrowing, but he also introduced a slow sorrowful theme and a nice rousing theme. I really like Faraday's Ride from the 2:50 minute onwards. Bernstein's signature rhythms from the original score are often employed by the percussions.

There's some nice music for sure. I just felt on first listen there wasn't enough new music or at least one new driving theme that encompasses the entire score bringing something fresh to the table.
The sample you provided didn't sound like Horner, I'm guessing thats from the other co-composer?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Regardless of borrowings etc. It just doesn't connect.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2023 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

I've been going around humming the theme from Seven Riders, particularly the break from 1.59 to 2.10ish. It's gorgeous Horner.



And the arrangement of it all by Franglen I cannot find fault with, it certainly sounds unified and characterful to me.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2023 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

This score has a soft spot in my heart, given its kindred spiritedness with my beloved PATRIOT GAMES and the suspense/action material from LEGENDS OF THE FALL.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2023 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

I read the beginning of this post and the director said Horner wrote the music based upon the script not the film. Who knows why he did this. Maybe it was just some general ideas and not the final themes he would have used. I don’t know his working process. He might have changed a lot after viewing the film. I understand why they used his music but maybe they shouldn’t have. I like the score but how much of it is pure Horner?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2023 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Ny, thanks for posting Seven Riders. It is gorgeous. This piece has Bernstein's signature rhythms in instruments and percussions. I thought it was a homage to Bernstein's score.

I really liked this movie and thought all the actors were excellent. However, I never understood why Vincent D'Onofrio talked in a soprano voice. Two actors, Martin Sensmeier and Manuel Garcia-Rulfo, I think were noticed by Hollywood thanks to this movie, and they are getting more movie parts. Manuel is our new Lincoln Lawyer.

 
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