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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

If you want concrete numbers on Facebook, Zimmer has 1.7 million likes. Williams has 335k. Jerry Goldsmith has 31k. On Spotify, Zimmer has 506k followers. Williams has 166k. Goldsmith has 16k.

How many followers does Sir Monty Norman have please?


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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

If you want concrete numbers on Facebook, Zimmer has 1.7 million likes. Williams has 335k. Jerry Goldsmith has 31k. On Spotify, Zimmer has 506k followers. Williams has 166k. Goldsmith has 16k.

How many followers does Sir Monty Norman have please?


Yeah, I mean how many followers do Elvis or The Beatles have?

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Sure it's totally anecdotal, but when people find out I like film scores they almost always reply "Like Hans Zimmer?" or "Do you know who Hans Zimmer is?" The flip side is that I am increasingly running into people who don't know who John Williams is.

Goldsmith, Silvestri, Powell, aren't even on the RADAR. Horner was "That Titanic guy."

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

What the hell... most film music is junk both now and in the "golden past". A handful of extraordinarily talented composers scattered thinly over the decades have provided the comforting illusion that this industrial craft was actually an art form...It's mostly junk. Always was. People today moan about Zimmer's multi-composer factory approach, and also the preset-music-template mentality that makes most scores indistinguishable from each other...The whole reputation of film music rests with a tiny handful of guys in the right place at the right time. But for every Alex North type genius there were ten Paul Sawtell type bland professionals churning out paste...I'm beginning to think it was all just a fluke.

I think Heath is right on the money here. My audio buying habits have gone from soundtrack reissues to classical box-set reissues, which feature exponentially more bang for the buck. Just as Heath points out the paucity of truly great soundtrack music, so it is with the old classical warhorses. Lots of the classical stuff is just repeated career highlights.

It becomes apparent after perusing enough classical music and orchestral soundtracks that, even for people considered "masters", the lightning-in-a-bottle eventually runs out for everyone, and for some more quickly than others.

Add to that the fact that Hollywood seems determined to shoehorn every bit of the creativity it is willing to pay for into a compressed and over-bureaucratized production process. Corporate Cinema just won't nurture any more maverick talents until teenagers and other social media addicts stop clicking on mediocre crap. Then again, since whole lives of artistic contemplation are being built around moronic click-bait and cartoony "major releases", maybe mature scoring is dead forever.

But I doubt it. With technology comes efficiency and, as my extremely good value classical box sets remind us: some things never go out of style. People will still be watching and hearing Rozsa's Ben-Hur and North's Spartacus, and liking it for a very long time. I betcha even some of Zimmer's stuff will stand the test of time. I vote for Thelma and Louise.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

"2004: The year film music died"

LOL!

Film Music is alive and well.

Must be sad being you.


LOL!

Must be sad being you.


Because I like film music from after 2004?


No. Other reasons.


Well, at least I'm less sad than you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   mild_cigar   (Member)

"2004: The year film music died"

LOL!

Film Music is alive and well.

Must be sad being you.


LOL!

Must be sad being you.


Because I like film music from after 2004?


No. Other reasons.


Well, at least I'm less sad than you.


Lighten up, old boy.

 
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