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 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

London's Guardian:

Too many films are blighted by lacklustre music, with directors failing to grasp the potential of a great score to enhance the viewing experience, one of cinema’s most revered composers has said.

Ennio Morricone, 88, criticised the use of “amateur” composers or synthesised sounds, rather than real instruments, in what he called a misguided attempt to cut costs.

While acknowledging the many directors who understood the emotional power of music – with Hans Zimmer (Gladiator) and John Williams (Schindler’s List) among the industry’s most brilliant composers – he said: “The standard of composition for film has deteriorated. I have suffered a lot in watching many films because of that.

“There are some directors who actually fear the possible success of music,” he added. “They fear that the audience or the critics will think the film has worked because there was a very good music score.”

Over a 60-year career, the Italian maestro has written some of cinema’s most memorable scores, from Sergio Leone’s The Good, the Bad and the Ugly to Oscar-winning classics such as The Mission and Cinema Paradiso.

Morricone revolutionised the way music was used in westerns, creating a wild west soundscape of gunshots, eerie whistling, twanging guitars and dissonant harmonicas that matched the unsettling heat and tension of Leone’s parched desert landscape, and its heroes and villains, portrayed through long shots and close-up cinematography.

The Hollywood Reporter once observed: “There aren’t many composers whose music is immediately identifiable after just a couple of whistled notes.”

Morricone went on to collaborate with directors on both sides of the Atlantic, including Bernardo Bertolucci and Brian De Palma.

He spoke to the Guardian ahead of an announcement on Wednesday that he is planning a world concert tour from next January.

This month, in his home city of Rome, he will conduct a special mass dedicated to Pope Francis. Commissioned by the Jesuit order to commemorate the 200th anniversary of their reformation, it will be performed at the Jesuit Church of the Gesù.

Morricone is not religious but he said inspiration came from his admiration for the pope. “He has brought about a kind of revolution at the Vatican, trying to correct some of the things that were totally wrong.”

Morricone has written hundreds of scores for cinema and television, and is one of only two film composers to have received an honorary Oscar for his lifetime achievement.

Such is his popularity that a recent European tour played to more than 150,000 people in 22 cities. There were standing ovations and critical acclaim, including a five-star review of his London concert.

The world tour will feature classics such as The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, which he wrote half a century ago, yet still rides high in any list of the best-known film soundtracks.

Leone once said that “music is more expressive than dialogue”, and Morricone sometimes wrote his music before the cameras even started rolling.

Other directors with whom Morricone collaborated had shown “different levels of understanding music”, he said: “Some directors understand the technicalities … Others understand the emotional side.”

But he criticised film-makers who “do not understand fully” that music “needs time to convey its message” on screen.

“If you have a 20-second music piece, you cannot really express anything … It can just signal maybe a scene change … If you allow it to develop, the music can do its job in telling what is not said and showing what you cannot see.”

He blames “the deterioration of standards” on cost-cutting: “The respect for a musical score must come from the director … If the director has no power and has to surrender to budgetary constraints, this is where we have the problem.”

Synthesised sounds are cheaper than live musicians, but he said: “Electronic instruments flatten everything. Maybe you can do everything with [them], but the result is quite similar – a kind of standardised music.

“The fact that people today tend to use too many electronic instruments or amateur composers is because they want to spend less money.”

Having written for almost every genre of film, from dramas and comedies to historical epics, he is frustrated that some people still associate him with westerns – “even though western films account for just 8% of my production”.

“What I would like to avoid today is to write music for western films.”

He acknowledges that if he had lived before the invention of cinema he might have composed differently. Film music “shouldn’t disturb the audience too much”, he said, noting that he sometimes avoids making his scores “too complicated”.

Ultimately, he believes, music is there to serve the movie. While good music cannot save a bad film, “even bad music” cannot ruin a good film, he said.

Tickets for My Life in Music at The O2London on 16 February go on sale on Friday:


http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/03/ennio-morricone-good-film-scores-replaced-by-bad-and-ugly?CMP=share_btn_fb

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 12:59 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Thanks for posting that H. Nice piece. There were a few new quotes there.
Sometimes you wonder if the journo who wrote it took his quotes from a press conference and the old stuff from previous Ennio quotes. Guardian has done previous pieces on him when he did RAH concerts before.
Either that or ennio gets asked all the same questions by non film music journalists or he churns out a lot of the same stock answers. He is quite shy so probably doesnt enjoy press work much.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yeah, the piecemeal quotes and the fact we do not get the questions that provoked them indicate that is probably the case. Just nice to see him out there.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:25 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

And more tour dates announced for next year! Wasn't that long ago I went to see him in Dublin, and he's coming back again! He must like it heresmile

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:32 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

“There are some directors who actually fear the possible success of music,” he added. “They fear that the audience or the critics will think the film has worked because there was a very good music score.”

Then the directors should pull their socks up and ensure the film is worthy of the critics' praise. Surely they should be pleased if one component of the film can paper over some of its other shortcomings. They don't seem so bothered if dodgy CGI effects spoil the realism.

Sounds like an ego problem, if they are worried their film will be overshadowed by someone else's music. It's the "whole" that counts, and that's what we're paying to see.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

"Morricone is not religious but he said inspiration came from his admiration for the pope."

Interesting. I have that Morricone-dedicated Music from the Movies magazine, in which there's some excerpts from an earlier interview:

"I am religious.... I have never interrupted my relationship with God. For quite some years I have more attention for my spiritual life. I don't know why. I feel it is right. I pray. I take communion. I go to church at seven in the morning. I go to confession intermittently because I do not find myself burdened with grave shortcomings."

And considering the number of scores he wrote for religious or spiritual movies, and the supreme quality of those scores I do think Morricone has faith.

Or here's another article/interview from 2009:

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/ennio-morricone-faith-always-present-in-my-music

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Yeh keky the mftm quote came from a religious magazine interview with him.
He has been known to change his views or certainly give conflicting quotes. Equally some may have been given when he was 70 and younger so i guess during his 80s he is allowed to have a different slant on things.
That is a bit of a weird and drastic u-turn though.
Put it down to bad translation!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   brofax   (Member)

Wasn't that long ago I went to see him in Dublin, and he's coming back again! He must like it here

He DOES smile

http://3arena.ie/index.php/artist/ennio-morricone1/1042

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yeh keky the mftm quote came from a religious magazine interview with him.
He has been known to change his views or certainly give conflicting quotes. Equally some may have been given when he was 70 and younger so i guess during his 80s he is allowed to have a different slant on things.
That is a bit of a weird and drastic u-turn though.
Put it down to bad translation!!


Yes! He once did an entire seminar here in Los Angeles. And I remember the translator was corrected quite a few times by the audience. What happens when no one corrects the translator?

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

“There are some directors who actually fear the possible success of music,” he added. “They fear that the audience or the critics will think the film has worked because there was a very good music score.”

Then the directors should pull their socks up and ensure the film is worthy of the critics' praise. Surely they should be pleased if one component of the film can paper over some of its other shortcomings. They don't seem so bothered if dodgy CGI effects spoil the realism.

Sounds like an ego problem, if they are worried their film will be overshadowed by someone else's music. It's the "whole" that counts, and that's what we're paying to see.


Yeah, that's the ironic thing isn't it?! Besides just cut out a third of the senseless CGI and you'll find your music budget.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He's actually tallied the percentage of films he did which were westerns? Seems a little odd.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Not really justin. Its an age old thing with him, coz hes annoyed he is still only known for and asked about the westerns.
He used to say "ive only done 35 westerns"
Maybe 8 per cent sounds less?
Not so long ago management - before interviews - would say The maestro will not discuss westerns!

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

And now discussed on this evening's BBC Radio 4's PM programme (17:45 -> approx.)

Conclusion appears to be that the Maestro is mistaken with one expert suggesting film soundtrack music now is better than ever ...

No wonder I've all but given up collecting ...

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   the_limited_edition_2   (Member)

He's actually tallied the percentage of films he did which were westerns? Seems a little odd.

That puzzled me, too. He could have said: not a lot, a minor percentage of, not too many. But he said: 8%.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Yeah, probably a dodgy translation. I mean that...wall of sound looking for a tune Zimmer, is hardly one of the greats is he.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

He's actually tallied the percentage of films he did which were westerns? Seems a little odd.

That puzzled me, too. He could have said: not a lot, a minor percentage of, not too many. But he said: 8%.


Actually this one I am not surprised at. The rest of the world MAY know Morricone for what he is. But here in the US all but me and 3 other people think only of his westerns, and maybe THE MISSION and UNTOUCHABLES if at all. The onslaught of the same questions over 50 years probably etched that 8% in his brain. You see when someone like Elmer Bernstein moved on from his westerns there were plenty of fans who could follow him to comedies or whatever. It waters the stereotype down. But the mass of melodramas, satires, gangster, epic, comedies, romances, etc. Morricone did were Italian and unknown here. So the idea that the most influential nation on the earth sees him with a pair of six-guns and plate of spaghetti has got to drive him up the wall (it would me). Luckily stuff like a lifetime Oscar mitigates that.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

And now discussed on this evening's BBC Radio 4's PM programme (17:45 -> approx.)

Conclusion appears to be that the Maestro is mistaken with one expert suggesting film soundtrack music now is better than ever ...



Depends if this "expert" is an avid film score listener, or just a radio journalist who comments on music as heard in the films.

It's quite feasible to be conditioned gradually over time to accept things as normal without realising just how evolutionary different music has become, compared to delving into film score history at random points in time to notice significant changes in style.

Also, the bigger and more visually spectacular movies have become can also subconsciously influence what you're hearing as well, leading to an assumption that the music must be better too. I'm not someone who really hears music the same way in the films as I do in isolation on a CD, because all the other aspects of the film (plot and storyline) are part of the distraction, so the music may very well be great playing along in the background to whatever is happening on-screen.

And Morricone's music isn't exactly normal if someone was to suddenly be played samples of his work. Much of it is quite weird and quirky.

Finally, the radio expert probably wouldn't get much employment if he slated everything today as being dreadful. No-one wants to hear an old misery-guts moaning all the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

And now discussed on this evening's BBC Radio 4's PM programme (17:45 -> approx.)

Conclusion appears to be that the Maestro is mistaken with one expert suggesting film soundtrack music now is better than ever ...

No wonder I've all but given up collecting ...

Mitch


Yeah, I heard that. One guy called Morricone a traditional composer, & maybe can't handle the new stuff. Well I must say, I've never thought of Morricone as anything like a traditional composer! And one guy did say that we're in a new golden age of film music now, or did I just doze off & dream that smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

He has a point about contemporary filmmakers being afraid of having the music be the best part about their film. Of course, that's assuming the filmmakers have a feeling for music to begin with, and most of them certainly do not, and the traditional function of Movie Music is especially of no interest to most film students I meet.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Nice to see him single out Zimmer for praise (if he actually did).
Morricone has always been outspoken about the importance of directors in partnership with the composer.
I think his comments about today's films are pretty right on
brm

 
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