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 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

My pc has a very slow startup, so what programs should I disable to get a faster startup?




 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I haven't been on a PC in 8 years so my advice could be dated. But you want to remove most of that stuff I would think. All that is important is an antivirus app. The rest is "junk" or apps automatically speaking to the internet when it doesn't have too.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I'm not sure, but how many anti-virals and spyware items are on that list? There might be too many.

Is ccleaner all it's cocked up to be? It shouldn't need a 'monitor' function, surely. You might just activate it when it's needed. Check out all these updaters and see if they're really necessary.

Avast .... now isn't that one of those slowpokes that scans for updates before it allows you to do anything? I'm not sure.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

In my experience the biggest culprit to a slow starting computer is when the OS is on a conventional hard drive and the computer has been configured to run anti-virus and anti-malware scans at start up. Those programs hog the hard drive and slow down the OS from getting itself sorted out.

So my advice would be to change your settings so that no anti-virus or other malware scans occur at start up, and instead either reschedule them for a later time, or set them to manual. However, on manual you'll need to remember to run them yourself.

The other alternative, if your PC supports it, is to get an SSD (solid state drive) and clone your OS to that. Modern SSDs are pretty fast, and have almost instant seek and access times. They are far more capable of dealing with multiple programmes wanting drive access simultaneously, and much faster than traditional HDDs.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Yes, anti-virus will slow down start up considerably, but it's designed to check for any infections before you totally boot up. Some viruses don't take full control until you reboot. I would never set it to manual. You might as well not have anti-virus at all then. It's gotta always run in the background or your taking your chances.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I use "Avast!", and find the impact it has on startup and performance to be minimal...it's really a "Set and Forget" programme that is just there - I only turn it off when I am maxing out the machine on FSX or something.

I would be intrigued to see what a full scan with Malwarebytes Anti-Malware picked up on this machine....it's a superb little programme (and free, for the most essential bits of it anyway)....every PC owner should know about it.

You don't really need NvMediaCenter running, by the way, unless you do a lot of 3D gaming.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Some viruses don't take full control until you reboot. I would never set it to manual. You might as well not have anti-virus at all then. It's gotta always run in the background or your taking your chances.


Yes, but you could get around this by scheduling a scan before you log off. After all, if the barrier is working properly, it'll prevent the viri, that's what it's for.

Then again, the slowdown factor may not be the actual scan, but the immediate search for updates to the virus database, so if you could perform that manually it'd have minimal danger.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/AdobeARM.exe-25493.html

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Yen Fai   (Member)

I agree, it looks like too many antivirus programs running at once. Although I couldn't tell you which to keep and which to disable.

Also, I use LibreOffice, which I believe is similar to Open Office, I don't allow it to start up with my computer, it's just too slow and a resource hog . I start it when I need it and quit when I'm done. Try disabling Open Office Startup in the OO preferences and see if it helps.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2015 - 1:31 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I wasn't talking about the background program itself (which keeps an eye on the system as a whole, which includes checking for infections in memory that might try to take control of a system). I was talking specifically about the scheduled scans.

I know of no program of any kind that, when it has to run through an entire hard disk of files, wouldn't also slow down all other accesses by other programs (including the OS) to the same HDD. Accesses to the HDD are particularly done during the startup and first few minutes of running by an OS. Indexing (on MS systems) is often also done automatically, and that's an HDD hog too. Get indexing and a virus scan running at the same time and that can really have an impact on getting anything else done.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2015 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I can only speak for XP and Windows 7, not that I'm any great expert on these things. You need to check the Task Scheduler, if you haven't already done so. The Event Viewer is also a handy reference, once you can figure out what the heck all the data means. The Windows 7 OS support for all these 'gizmos' makes tracking these things feasible. As I said, there's quite a bit to know about system security nowadays, and knowing what little I do, it always feels as though there are an infinite number of gaps the nasties can squeeze into.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2015 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

CCleaner, (uninstall) SUPERAntiSpyware, Adobe, DSCActivate, ISUSPM, Probably the NV trio, Sigmatel, (uninstall) SSB, Sun, Digital Line, OpenOfffice, Opware, PDV

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2015 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   GrizzledGeezer   (Member)

You have too many anti-malware programs running. You should install one good product (I use Kaspersky, which has been free for the past few years), and disable the others.

It can be difficult to figure out why startup is slow. Both my desktop and notebook use i7 processors and run Windows 7 Pro 64. Yet the desktop comes up in just a few seconds (the boot drive is an SSD), while the notebook takes over two minutes. This cannot be solely due to the latter using an HDD.

Some utilities let you disable startup loads. (I like Glary, because it has user feedback suggesting whether a program is useful or not.) If you don't know what a program does, a Google search will usually reveal this.

There should be no harm in disabling startup programs or services.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2015 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Best solution. Get a Mac! I remember my old PC days where I spent half of my life resolving computer problems. Macs just work.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2015 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Macs just work.

'Til they don't. I've seen plenty of Macs crash. Like PCs, they're fine if you're doing light computing duties - chances are you won't encounter any trouble on either platform, especially early in the life of the computer (the more time passes, the more clutter accumulates). But asking them to muscle-up for intensive graphics/video/audio tasks will increase the chances of headaches. Ultimately, it's all about the basic horsepower of the computer and the efficiency of the programs you install on them. Then it becomes a matter of how much you're willing to pay for higher-end super-reliable systems. At that level, the differences between Macs and PCs are negligible, IMO.*


*Although you get better bang for buck with PCs and the advantage of not being trapped in a "closed system"... again, in my opinion. wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2015 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

ADM. NAISMITH:

Could you clarify your reply.
I disabled CCleaner and Superantispyware during startup, but my pc still has a slow startup.
What else should I disable?

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2015 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Try not autostarting everything on start-up. Open firefox and other browsers manually after start-up. Basically my preference is to have my computer do nothing automatically on start-up. I run virus scans and disk defragmenter during computer down-time during the day or the evening. I open programs when I want to use them and close them when I'm not using them. Firefox in particular is (or used to be, maybe they've streamlined it lately?) a ridiculous resource hog.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2015 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

OpenOffice starts up perfectly fine without the "start up" helper apps. I would disable them in the OpenOffice options. Adobe Reader can also start up perfectly fine without the "start up" helper apps. Depending on your version of Reader and your software license you may be able to turn those off. I would if you can. The Java Update scheduler can be disabled for certain. You just have to manually check for updates I would say once a month to be safe. Find the Java Update controls either in your system tray or control panel and uncheck check for updates automatically. I use CCleaner but I don't have it run automatically. I do it manually. If your are comfortable with that then turn off the startup option for it.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2015 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



If you trust yourself, run a program called Combofix. It is a no frills, deep cleaning program that will not leave its own footprint. Read about it here and download it only if you feel comfortable doing it. I have run it several times over the years with no problem. Read up on it here and then decide. Follow the instructions exactly.

http://download.cnet.com/Combofix/3000-8022_4-75221073.html

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2015 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

How full is your hard drive and when is the last time you defrag your computer? Those could be issues as well.

 
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