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May 13, 2015 - 11:51 AM
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Tom Servo
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This is a pretty excellent article, and valid criticisms.
I especially agree with the problem of the predetermined narrative.
These movies are the equivalent of master planned housing communities.
Very pretty, but not very interesting or original.
http://www.wired.com/2015/05/marvel-killing-the-popcorn-movie/
Yeah pretty much sums it up. It's a two hour commercial for other Marvel properties and merchandising. It's soul purpose is to sell more stuff.
Wow, that article took some effort to finally finish... I was getting highly annoyed at their style of a "conversational tone" with lots of profanity. Oh boy. Anywho, I get the points made about this new serialized format of movies Disney is running with the Marvel series. I can't see all the movies in this series and don't really plan to, so I don't wish to feel excluded when I finally get around to seeing them. But I don't think it's somehow this apocalyptic ending of popcorn movies that the writer thinks it is, in their completely panicked, hyperbolic, "I'm so wise now that I'm in my thirties" tone. Give me a break.
It's a TV model that has now been grafted onto the movies. I look at the Marvel series of movies as serialized TV series like "Mad Men" or "The Walking Dead". If I missed last week's episode, I should be able to catch up simply by context of the current episode I'm watching. I'm sure I'll miss a detail, but there always enough repetition by the characters to help me catch up. No worries. And similar to many TV series, you've got an ensemble feel to the Marvel movies, especially the two Avengers movies. Also, not a big deal, as I kinda like that this is akin to having a deep bench for your basketball team. Lots of talented players and each get some time on the court to perform and they're all entertaining to watch. The Avengers movies aren't "solo sports" like golf or tennis, those are saved for the individual Captain America or Thor movies.
And you know what, I really enjoyed "Age of Ultron", in some ways more than the first one.
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May 13, 2015 - 8:53 PM
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drop_forge
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This is a pretty excellent article, and valid criticisms.
I especially agree with the problem of the predetermined narrative.
These movies are the equivalent of master planned housing communities.
Very pretty, but not very interesting or original.
http://www.wired.com/2015/05/marvel-killing-the-popcorn-movie/
I agree with the following:
"Age of Ultron is quite possibly the worst movie of Whedon’s career, and I can’t get over it. I’ve been obsessed with this movie for a week now, poking through it in my mind, trying to figure out what went wrong. I mean, it’s just plain hacky, in ways I frankly have trouble comprehending: It’s riddled with cliches, shortcuts, set-ups without pay-offs, elements that seem, not like bad choices, but like actual mistakes."
It's been rather amusing the last couple weeks to see the Whedonbots argue in defense of their Leader. It could have been a great movie with someone else at the helm.
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I just checked, and AoU is making money. Since that is the one and only thing Joss Whedon has to be concerned with, we shouldn't expect any kind of course correction from him or Disney.
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How about using the spoiler function as there are people who haven't yet seen the movie.
Greg Espinoza
Lucky stiffs!
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More Marvel fatigue for me.
With every new film, I find myself getting less and less interested, and more and more bored.
I really liked the first Avengers film, but this one, coming after the dull Winter Soldier and uninspired Thor 2 (I did like Iron Man 3) is wearing me thin on the whole universe.
To paraphrase a Whedon...'getting bored now!'
What score?
you LIKED "IM 3" ????!!!
brm
ps someone described these films as "cgi porn" and that's pretty accurate.
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ANd now for a sure to be derided non-sequitur::
If you want to see how a cgi -based climax should be handled check out JURASSIC WORLD.
The vfx are so good you never once think you are NOT watching something real. There are several twists and turns - it is not predictable or pre-ordained. The pacing is just right. The filmmakers do not stretch the final showdown out for eternity - both AVENGERS films have , like 30+ minutes of boring, non-sensical "action"
When the film ends you smile.
It can be done
brm
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For those who criticized Silvestri's original score for not having memorable themes, I ask you this:
when those themes appeared on the soundtrack of AOU( e.g. the helicarrier) did you recognize them immediately?
thought so
brm
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