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 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

If you are really looking forward to this blu ray with the long awaited isolated Vangelis score you will be dissappointed to read this:

"For reasons beyond our comprehension, Twilight Time has delivered this with an isolated score in Mono. The sound also feels weirdly processed and unusually thin"
This is not an isolated score, but a degraded one. None of the announcements made any mention of this.

They did manage to include the full end title music (contrary to most DVD releases of this movie), which continues running a minute or so after the titles have left the screen, but what's the point if the quality is way below average?

("a few important fragments are qouted from Vangelis fansite: Elsewhere"...Thanks to Paul MacLean)

Weirdly enough the B**t has also a weirdly processed and unusually thin sound but is at least in stereo!

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

The fact that the isolated score for THE BOUNTY is mono will not come as news to those who have been following the forum threads about this release. The original announcement mentioned a "music-plus-effects track," and when the final PR changed to "isolated score," Mike Matessino clarified right here on this forum that mono music-only elements had turned up during production. The reviewer quoted above seems to feel that mono isolated score tracks for stereo scores are inherently worthless. I vigorously disagree. It's not as though Twilight Time had a pristine stereo track that they deliberately held back, and the fact that the cruddy-sounding bootleg is stereo is immaterial. The choice here was between mono, music covered up by sound effects, or nothing. Given those options, I'll happily take the mono track!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm ordering anyway, tomorrow (with John Barry's The Dove CD smile) Sometimes we just need to take the best that we can get.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

Thanks Jacky. This was on our list to order, but it has been mark off the list.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

The fact that the isolated score for THE BOUNTY is mono will not come as news to those who have been following the forum threads about this release. The original announcement mentioned a "music-plus-effects track," and when the final PR changed to "isolated score," Mike Matessino clarified right here on this forum that mono music-only elements had turned up during production. The reviewer quoted above seems to feel that mono isolated score tracks for stereo scores are inherently worthless. I vigorously disagree. It's not as though Twilight Time had a pristine stereo track that they deliberately held back, and the fact that the cruddy-sounding bootleg is stereo is immaterial. The choice here was between mono, music covered up by sound effects, or nothing. Given those options, I'll happily take the mono track!

To be honest i couldn't find the matching threat about this isolated score, maybe you can tell us where the original threat is located?

Anyway since there is no sign of any info around this i am just telling what is in the news today, am i not aloud to write about it when there is a complaint? the added info is not only regarding the track is in mono but also that the soundquality of the track is pretty poor, people have the right to know that before they order it.
I have bought this blu ray too but now i read this information i regret it very much.
And i still haven't received it so i am afraid customs will add a nice extra bill to this (already expensive) purchase also!

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=108576&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=108576&forumID=1&archive=0

Your search engine seems to be working better than mine, thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

I'm ordering anyway, tomorrow (with John Barry's The Dove CD smile) Sometimes we just need to take the best that we can get.

Peter, I love your optimism regarding "The Dove" lol
I hope you're right !

Leo.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   David Ferstat   (Member)

Peter Greenhill wrote:

I'm ordering anyway, tomorrow (with John Barry's The Dove CD smile)

Wait, what? The Dove?

Have I missed something important, or is this a leg-pull?

EDIT: Never mind. I've just seen the trouser-wetting announcement. Oh, boy!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

I watched my copy of The Bounty the other day and enjoyed it.Did not check the isolated score i am not bothered.Pretty nice transfer over all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

("a few important fragments are qouted from Vangelis fansite: Elsewhere"...Thanks to Paul MacLean)

Just to clear the air, when passing my impressions along to the Elsewhere site, what I actually said was this...

"I can confirm the Blu-ray has the full end title music heard in the original theatrical and VHS releases, which continues past the end credits for a minute or so. The music for the storm is dialed-down before the end of the sequence however, while the music for the montage on Tahiti (where Bligh realizes he's losing control of the crew) is interrupted by some Tahitian percussion and the blind fiddler for a moment. But overall though I find the music track satisfactory.

I must say, even though the isolated music track is mono, it does sound very good -- certainly much better than that ******* that's been floating around since the 90s."

I was rather dismayed that they created the impression I was critical of the release -- which I am not at all. In fact I am actually thrilled to have it -- particularly in light of the fact that this soundtrack is unlikely to ever be released on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 11:21 PM   
 By:   Stephen Pickard   (Member)

In contrast to this, I am literally 'over the moon' about the isolated score to "First Men in the Moon". I had no idea that the stereo tracks to this wonderful Laurie Johnson score still survived. There are a few cues combined with effects but the majority of the score has brilliant fidelity and stereo separation. Recorded on Stage 'L' at Shepperton Studios. If only the stereo tracks had survived for "Jason" and sounding like this....

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 2:09 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

("a few important fragments are qouted from Vangelis fansite: Elsewhere"...Thanks to Paul MacLean)

Just to clear the air, when passing my impressions along to the Elsewhere site, what I actually said was this...

"I can confirm the Blu-ray has the full end title music heard in the original theatrical and VHS releases, which continues past the end credits for a minute or so. The music for the storm is dialed-down before the end of the sequence however, while the music for the montage on Tahiti (where Bligh realizes he's losing control of the crew) is interrupted by some Tahitian percussion and the blind fiddler for a moment. But overall though I find the music track satisfactory.

I must say, even though the isolated music track is mono, it does sound very good -- certainly much better than that ******* that's been floating around since the 90s."

I was rather dismayed that they created the impression I was critical of the release -- which I am not at all. In fact I am actually thrilled to have it -- particularly in light of the fact that this soundtrack is unlikely to ever be released on CD.


That is indeed a bit of a different story thanks for clearing that up wink)
It was never intended to twist your story

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

That is indeed a bit of a different story thanks for clearing that up wink)
It was never intended to twist your story


No problema. Thanks!

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It seems the mono/stereo issue has been put in its proper repspective, but is there not also still the remaining issue of the tracks themselves sounding "weirdly processed and unusually thin"?

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

They sound fine to me. I'm thrilled to have the isolated track, since we're unlikely to ever see a genuine Bounty CD release. And even if we do, a lot of the cues we have on the Blu-Ray probably wouldn't be included anyway.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

They sound fine to me. I'm thrilled to have the isolated track, since we're unlikely to ever see a genuine Bounty CD release. And even if we do, a lot of the cues we have on the Blu-Ray probably wouldn't be included anyway.


That's good enough for me.
Thank you for the clarification, Paul.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2015 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

After listening to the isolated score myself i have to say i am not so dissappointed at all.

To be honest the music on the actual movie audio track sounds also a bit mono-ish therefor it is not so strange that the isolated track sound the same.
The end credits however has a more mono feel to it but it is very nice they have included the full original end titles music. When the movie titles stops the picture goes black, but the music goes on for a little longer.

The isolated score sounds pretty good and doesn't have a mono feeling, maybe it is but it is definately not disturbing.

As a true Vangelis fan i must say it is better to have this score in a very acceptable (considering its age!) "mono" quality than not to have the score at all!

it amazes me this title hasn't been sold out yet, it really is worth the money!.

Now after seeing an isolated score of Chariots of fire, La fete sauvage and the Bounty i cannot wait to see Blade runner released wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2015 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It seems the mono/stereo issue has been put in its proper repspective, but is there not also still the remaining issue of the tracks themselves sounding "weirdly processed and unusually thin"?

that's how we Americans like our cheese and our soundtracks...

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2015 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I watched this movie, which I saw when it originally came out, in HD on satellite someplace within the last couple of years. I thought it looked and sounded OK. It's too bad so many seem disappointed with it on Blu-ray. I, though, am not a fan of this version and prefer the two previous version, flawed as they may be, but this version just lacks something, and the score.... It terribly dates the movie, but maybe I feel that way because I'm just not a fan of those electronic scores from that era.

 
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